Posted on 02/14/2023 9:15:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The Biden administration has denounced the actions of China's military after a new significant incident involving the Philippine and Chinese Coast Guards. It happened on Feb.6, but has only this week been revealed.
State Department spokesman Ned Price in a Tuesday briefing blasted China’s "provocative and unsafe" interference aimed at disrupting Philippine vessels' "lawful operations" in the South China Sea. "More broadly, the PRC’s dangerous operational behavior directly threatens regional peace and stability, infringes upon freedom of navigation in the South China Sea as guaranteed under international law, and undermines the rules-based international order," Price said.
Specifically, the allegation is that a Chinese Coast Guard ship used a laser device to "temporarily blind" the crew of the rival Philippine ship, according to the US, citing its Philippine ally.
The US said it happened in an area where Beijing has "no lawful maritime claims" as it occurred as the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) sailed around Second Thomas Shoal.
That's when, according to an official PCG statement—
The Chinese ship illuminated the green laser light twice toward the BRP MALAPASCUA, causing temporary blindness to her crew at the bridge. The Chinese vessel also made dangerous maneuvers by approaching about 150 yards from the vessel's starboard quarter.
The PCG further called it "a blatant disregard for, and a clear violation of, Philippine sovereign rights."
The State Dept.'s Price agreed, saying "The United States stands with our Philippine allies in upholding the rules-based international maritime order and reaffirms an armed attack on Philippine armed forces, public vessels, or aircraft, including those of the Coast Guard in the South China Sea, would invoke U.S. mutual defense commitments," while referencing a 1951 mutual defense treaty.
It's certainly not the first time the US made such a pledge; however, clearly Beijing is challenging the US stance with such brazen provocations in the South China Sea, especially when disputed territory is at play.
Beijing has acknowledged the incident, but blamed the Philippine Coast Guard for entering claimed Chinese waters...
Chinese MOFA on laser pointing incident:
The Ren’ai Reef is part of China’s Nansha Islands. On February 6, a Philippine Coast Guard vessel intruded into the waters off the Ren’ai Reef without Chinese permission. https://t.co/wGAOrrNVeq — Frances Mangosing 🇵🇭 (@FMangosingINQ) February 13, 2023
Last summer Secretary of State Antony Blinken pledged and spelled out: "We also reaffirm that an armed attack on Philippine armed forces, public vessels, or aircraft in the South China Sea would invoke US mutual defense commitments under Article IV of the 1951 US-Philippines Mutual Defense Treaty."
See my post number 20
Sink the chicom ship. They want to intimidate? Let’s rumble.
It comes down to how many missiles (naval and air force weapons, not army ammo) are in stock vs how many targets need to be destroyed.
And that comes down to what US goals are in such a war. If the US limits itself to, say, destroying the Chinese Navy, there probably is plenty of ammo for that. If the goal is to destroy and keep suppressed invasion ports oriented to Taiwan, more; airfields in range, even more; missile launchers, industrial sites, transport targets, and on and on... Certainly not.
What a foolish post. Nations cannot choose what sort of war they want. Attack another sovereign nation’s navy means general war. Whether the US could do more than some damage is also problematic. Once a war begins the nations involved are in the domain of the unknown and unpredictable. There are so many just plain foolish and stupid remarks on this forum by people who do not have the slightist idea what they are writing about vis a vis armed conflict. One thing is obvious, the number of barca lounger warriors here is great, those who have seen the elephant are few. Pretty much like the US as a whole.
It matters what war aims are and the national strategy. A total war to utterly destroy China’s means of resistance is not likely to be a feasible goal short of nuclear war.
Its certainly not a reasonable goal for the USN or USAF.
No more than it was a reasonable goal for the Royal Navy in 1914-18, to destroy German industry by bombardment. It was a reasonable goal, however, for the RN to blockade Germany and halt its foreign trade, and to prevent the German Navy from interfering with that.
And that will also be the primary job of the USN in a war with China.
Becoming involved in a war with a great power immediately mans being in a situation that is inherently uncontrolable. People like you are devoid of common sense and represent the level of foolishness that today passes for thought in a country in which almost no one alive remembers what a big war is like or even the cold war when it was serious. People such as you love to spout this nonsense knowing that they will never be called on to pay the checks they are writing with their mouths. You are a fool and a war monger.
Whatever dude. When war comes to you, you fight. And this is what happened to Ukraine. People like you always edge around the fact that Ukraine was invaded by Russia.
The odds were bad then, and have only somewhat improved over the last year. The Ukrainians still seem to be willing to fight for their country, which is admirable. There are a lot of similar cases in history, and many are at the core of the western cultural inheritance. That, for instance, is the story told by Herodotus, about the Persian invasion of Greece (see “300”). The underdog doesn’t often win, but when he does it is glorious.
You have to invent all sorts of stories with which to morally disparage Ukraine (the nation and people), or back the Russian case, such as it is, or tie Ukraine in as at fault in creating American political corruption (which is inherent to the depraved state of the US), in order to evade your guilt, which exists in you at some level, which comes from rejecting your European cultural heritage.
You are a war monger. There is nothing in all of Europe that merits any risk to any US military personnel or spending huge amounts of US taxpayer dollars People like you (a) have not the foggiest idea what a real war is like (b) you enjoy pontificating without having ever served a minute in any militsry orgsnization (c) you get very excited at the prospect of sending other Ameicans in harms way. You sre a disgusting example of a K Steet stooge. To bad if there is a war you won’t get to know what it is like up close and personal.
I am not a K-street stooge! I was a member in good standing of the military-industrial complex, in my day. A technical sort, not the money side, sadly. So you can run with that.
And, to be personal, your post is the typical run of invective with no facts or arguments. It’s not a proper rebuttal to an argument. It is more in the category of new age scream therapy.
I figuered some sort of stooge. You can’t contain your desire to sit on the side lines and watch other, better men, risk their lives in some some corrupt and stupid K Street venture. Makes you feel soo good , doesn’t it. Begone stooge and jingo whore.
I’ve never understood how scream therapy is supposed to have worked. I get that it’s a get it all out kind of thing, but that in itself doesn’t help in re serotonin uptake or production, that I’ve heard.
Yeah, now we discuss Jordan Peterson’s lobsters, in re serotonin, etc, but he is on to something.
Anyway, I recommend a withrawal from “combat” here, and a nice hobby that offers small successes with little inherent risk of frustration. Duolingo say, or woodworking. I do not recommend photography, my own obsession, as that is inherently frustrating.
Begone jingo whore. I remember your like in Viet Nam. The drunks from NHA particularly stand out. What contemptible human beings. Would mock US Army ground and air crews for how little they made compared to those heroes. Went on until a US Army warrant after a bad day aloft shot one of the bigger NHA loudmouths.
Part of your problem, it seems, is trauma from Vietnam that you are trying to get resolution for on the forum. It’s a very frustrating quest of course. In part because this forum is not Vietnam, obviously, and because the world cannot be twisted and stuffed into your very narrow revenge scenario.
No offense, but that is a trap you have made for yourself. I would be talking about therapy, if I didn’t have a very low opinion of that.
Again, I think you need some peaceful hobby that doesn’t set off such a reaction.
Go away warmongering whore there were more and more MIC parasites such as you after Viet Nam. You are warmonger. It warms your heart to think of having another ‘good’ war
We are gonna fight Russia and China and Iran all at the same time...all to make the world safe for perverts.
This is US foreign policy in a nutshell—a nut shell.
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