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Alec Baldwin, armorer to be charged over ‘Rust’ shooting
One America News ^ | January 31, 2023 | Andrew Hay (Rooters)

Posted on 01/31/2023 7:22:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot

Actor Alec Baldwin and armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed will be charged on Tuesday with involuntary manslaughter for the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of Western “Rust” in 2021, a New Mexico prosecutor said.

The charges follow 15 months of speculation whether District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies would find evidence Baldwin showed criminal disregard for safety when a revolver he was rehearsing with fired a live round that killed Hutchins.

The “30 Rock” actor has denied responsibility for the shooting, saying he cocked the revolover but never pulled the trigger and it was the job of Gutierrez-Reed and other weapons professionals to ensure it was unloaded.

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To: Navy Patriot

Rust has 6 Producers.


61 posted on 01/31/2023 8:55:40 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

That just raises the personal risk of working on a movie set six times above normal.


62 posted on 01/31/2023 9:03:04 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Baldwin has been charged, and has financially settled with her family.
It was a bad situation for many involved.
A mother/wife is dead, and numerous lives affected.
“We” didn’t win anything because Baldwin, the jerk, is being charged.
Suspended sentence with community service is likely.
He’s certainly not going to a Maximum Security Gen-Pop prison.

I certainly agree Alec is a massive jerk. I want to be factually correct as well.


63 posted on 01/31/2023 9:11:58 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator
“We” didn’t win anything because Baldwin, the jerk, is being charged.

Who's "We"?

64 posted on 01/31/2023 9:22:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: DouglasKC
There is no way on earth that Baldwin did not know gun safety

He's actually called himself an expert on several public occasions. I suppose it depends on what you consider expertise; certainly he's killed more people than I have.

The trigger issue is misdirection. He pointed a loaded gun at two people. Even if it only had blanks that was a dangerous and irresponsible thing to do and against every safety rule both movie sets and the real world - they're really the same thing, as a dead woman demonstrates - require. Baldwin has attended numerous on-set safety briefings or he wouldn't be in the business. He just didn't give a rip.

65 posted on 01/31/2023 9:36:42 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Navy Patriot

As one astute prior service Marine aptly put it months ago, “if Baldwin was getting ready to rehearse an in-the-mouth suicide scene, he would have checked the pistol.”

I tend to agree.


66 posted on 01/31/2023 9:42:39 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Clutch Martin

He would have triple checked it.


67 posted on 01/31/2023 9:46:28 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: BushCountry

Why do they use real guns? Why not use weapons like we used in drill training. They had a bolt inside the barrel, and had no firing mechanism.


68 posted on 01/31/2023 9:51:57 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Navy Patriot

so she should be able to pass an armorers course with ease then...

a self proclaimed Armorer is just that


69 posted on 01/31/2023 9:53:24 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Navy Patriot

The FReepers excited over Baldwin’s f up.


70 posted on 01/31/2023 9:54:31 AM PST by EEGator
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To: gitmo

“Why do they use real guns?”

They shouldn’t. The Actor Guide recommended to never use a real gun on the set and Baldwin knew it. Everything can be done in post and with technology, fairly cheaply.

Baldwin ignore all recommendations besides pointing and pulling the trigger.


71 posted on 01/31/2023 10:03:04 AM PST by BushCountry (A properly cast vote (1 day voting) can save you $3.00 a gallon.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yo-Yo, your comments are spot on. The armorer’s job is to make sure firearms are safe for use on the set. That part of this tragedy falls on her. However, as a Producer, Baldwin has skin (money) in this project, and if it’s proven he cut any corners then that’s on him. The trial should be interesting.


72 posted on 01/31/2023 10:18:33 AM PST by Kharis13
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To: Chode

Yep, she did make that mistake.


73 posted on 01/31/2023 10:21:02 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Clutch Martin

An interesting observation, and I’m sure you are absolutely correct.


74 posted on 01/31/2023 10:29:10 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: A Navy Vet

Baldwin over-ruled her about guns on set and took the authority away from her is my understanding. She was not in control of weaponry.

Would anyone here not look at a weapon they were using?


75 posted on 01/31/2023 10:48:34 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Navy Patriot

truth be told, i am AMAZED you don’t have to have some kind of certification...

unbelievable the insurance company’s allow it


76 posted on 01/31/2023 12:49:33 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Navy Patriot

One aspect of this that bothers me, is that a scene was not
being filmed when Baldwin shot and killed the
cinematographer, not an actor (meaning he didn’t need to
be aiming at anyone. Baldwin was rehearsing/practicing.

The impression I came away with, shortly after it happened, was that the cinematographer that was killed, had words with
him earlier in the day. Was he just playing around trying
to joke with or intimidate the cinematographer? That’s
anyone’s guess.

There was no need to point that gun at anyone at that time.
I would argue that with the proper camera angle guns would
hardly ever, perhaps never, have to aimed at a human at any
point in the filming process.

At a 90 degree camera position, you could be aiming 18
inches off center, and the longer the distance the smaller
the angle to accomplish that, would be.

You would see a hand extended with the gun going off
appearing to be aimed straight to the target.


77 posted on 01/31/2023 1:50:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Blame should be placed on the armorer who allowed a live round in the firearm,

Should we not wait until we know how a live round got into that gun before we blame the armorer?

If someone else put it in there, how would it be her fault?

If the live round was in the box of dummy rounds they purchased from that supplier, how would it be her fault?

I think some people are too quick to place blame before they have heard the facts.

78 posted on 01/31/2023 2:30:38 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Chode
...i am AMAZED you don’t have to have some kind of certification...

unbelievable the insurance company’s allow it

I Agree.

I have never been impressed by the quality of the people who populate all the various "jobs" in the movie industry.

Being a 2A advocate, I have always had a grudge against the movie industry for their irresponsible portrayal of firearms and their Fake and Dangerous portrayal of the real life dangers of firearms discharges.

I am not surprised that the Movie Industry is generally irresponsible about training and safety.

This general irresponsibility is why I posted the few lines regarding how Hannah Gutierrez-Reed became the Armorer on the Rust production.

79 posted on 01/31/2023 4:13:37 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: DoughtyOne

I know a whole lot about Firearms, and Zero about the idiosyncrasies of the movie business, so I’ll take your word for it.


80 posted on 01/31/2023 4:18:19 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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