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Gates: A lot of US military aid to Ukraine ‘could have been done sooner’
The hill ^ | 01/29/2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 01/29/2023 9:58:53 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Sunday that a lot of the U.S.’s military aid to Ukraine “could have been done sooner.”

“I think the only thing I would have said is that a lot of this could have been done sooner,” Gates said when asked by Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press” if he would have advised President Biden to do anything differently.

“And, you know, they’re talking about potentially being six months, a year or more before the Abrams tanks get there,” he added. “I think the key thing about the Abrams tank decision was that it unlocked the Germans.”

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KEYWORDS: aid; gates; graft; kickbacks; laurensforza; lootingthetreasury; military; moneylaundering; robertgates; ropetreebobby; someassemblyrequired; thehill; theshill; theswill; ukraine
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To: thegagline

Actual national interests don’t matter when there are faux national interest and proxy wars to be waged.


21 posted on 01/29/2023 10:36:28 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The SecDef hired by W and Obama.

The puppets may look different, but the same hands are pulling the strings.

22 posted on 01/29/2023 10:43:46 AM PST by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: UNGN

Right Gates is woke hack and a fool.


23 posted on 01/29/2023 10:49:42 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: ChicagoConservative27

He is absolutely right. The US dithered. This is one of the failures of this administration.


24 posted on 01/29/2023 10:51:18 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If we had given more earlier, would we be giving less now?

I doubt it.


25 posted on 01/29/2023 10:59:58 AM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Gates, who in the **** do you think you are?


26 posted on 01/29/2023 11:12:23 AM PST by Irenic
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To: buwaya

Gates isn’t right about anything.

He comments on other’s peoples decisions with 20/20 hindsight, but he NEVER looks at his own MASSIVE F-UP’s with the same reflection.

He Singlehandledly destroyed the Boy Scouts of America.

He could have said “hey, they are 12 year old kids, they shouldn’t be talking about ANYTHING Sexual. Don’t ask Don’t tell should work great”

Instead, he basically said “We tried Don’t ask Don’t tell in the Military, it didn’t work. Gay Scoutmasters, Gay kids need to be all let in and they need to be able to express their gayness, openly. What about girls? Sure, why not, let them join, too.”

He is terrible and makes terrible decisions. Descisions so bad, its like someone is making them for him.

I’m for the US supporting Ukraine against Russia, but this guy piping up is to be dismissed completely. He is a tool.


27 posted on 01/29/2023 11:16:32 AM PST by UNGN
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To: UNGN

The Guy who destroyed the Boyscouts and will probably be the guy to decide to let men play women’s sports in the NCAA weighs in on stuff.
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I don’t think the low IQ remember Gates voted to allow Gays into the Boy Scouts, and to include Gay leadership. When does America wake up and realize anything Biden does destroys America- his Ukie war included.

Carry on war cheerleaders, you support an immoral, corrupted, evil administration.My advice: if vegetable head Joe says turn left- turn right.


28 posted on 01/29/2023 11:19:40 AM PST by delta7
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To: ChicagoConservative27
They're talking about potentially being six months, a year or more before the Abrams tanks get there

One of FNC's retired generals said 6 to 8 months before Abrams could be in the fight.

29 posted on 01/29/2023 11:26:13 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Thilly Thailor
After the war

30 posted on 01/29/2023 11:26:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: G Larry
"A year from now we will have 4 significant militaries with severely depleted conventional munition supplies (U.S., NATO, Russia, Ukraine)"

That's what China is waiting for.

31 posted on 01/29/2023 11:35:18 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

General Bill Gates is stepping up his war management, by slithering out of his zone of competence, in exactly the same way robert McNamara did in going from Ford MC and giving us the botched Vietnam “whiz kid” experience.


32 posted on 01/29/2023 11:41:19 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: DPMD

Okay, I confused the Gateses. Ignore my last.


33 posted on 01/29/2023 11:42:41 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Little peek at reality for you.

NATO Official Says Alliance 'Ready' for Direct Confrontation With Russia
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-official-says-alliance-ready-direct-confrontation-russia-1777362

Top NATO official says Alliance ready for direct confrontation with Russia
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/01/28/7386967/

Rheinmetall ready to boost output of tank and artillery munitions
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-defense/3661360-rheinmetall-ready-to-boost-output-of-tank-and-artillery-munitions.html

Ukraine to receive 321 tanks from Western partners in total, says ambassador to France
https://english.nv.ua/nation/over-300-tanks-earmarked-for-delivery-to-ukraine-war-50300558.html

Western partners promise to provide Kyiv with 321 heavy tanks – Ukrainian ambassador to France
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/887589.html

North Korea calls U.S. pledge of tanks to Ukraine 'unethical crime'
https://www.reuters.com/world/north-korea-calls-us-pledge-tanks-ukraine-crime-against-humanity-2023-01-29/

US Treasury Sanctions Chinese Firm Supplying Intelligence to Russia
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us-treasury-sanctions-chinese-firm-supplying-intelligence-to-russia_5016450.html

Ukrainian forces killed 650 Russian soldiers and destroyed 8 tanks on 28 January
January 29, 2023
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/01/29/7386980/

Ukrainian Armed Forces kill 800 Russian invaders
January 28, 2023
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/01/28/7386903/

Nearly 5,500 Russians Killed Last Week in War: Defense Ministry
https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-5500-russians-killed-last-week-war-defense-ministry-1777316

Putin Throwing 'Meat Into the Grinder' as War Losses Grow: Former Lawmaker
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-throwing-meat-grinder-war-losses-grow-former-lawmaker-1777309

Liberation of Crimea with German tanks is legal, SPD chairman says
https://english.nv.ua/nation/germany-s-spd-states-ukraine-can-use-leopard-tanks-to-liberate-crimea-news-50300526.html

34 posted on 01/29/2023 11:48:20 AM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“China is a paper tiger with nukes.”

Think about that just a little more.
It’s like mocking a 65 year old man, saying “he is weak and unable to fight ... and without that .357 in his hand, he is nothing”.

People in positions like that are often willing to play the one card they have.


35 posted on 01/29/2023 12:43:56 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: PIF

Interesting map. I think that this would be a bad outcome for NATO. NATO wants to see Russia come out of this reduced and humiliated but still intact enough to hold down the fort in the rest of Asia. This map would mean we’re looking at a century-long sh*tstorm.


36 posted on 01/29/2023 12:46:16 PM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: mass55th

Personally I don’t think China is going to attack Taiwan. They’ll take it without a shot the way they did Hong Kong and Washington DC.
Elite capture in academia, media, business, and government...bribery etc.

When Chinese troops land in Taiwan, it will be at the airport, and the Taiwanese government will be there to greet them.

They are smart, and long game people.


37 posted on 01/29/2023 12:47:35 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: familyop

Great links. This talk of depleting NATO weapons stores seems silly to me. Who could seriously doubt the capacity of Germany, Britain, Japan and the USA to ramp up production of all kinds of weapons in munitions in short order? Let’s not forget France with its enormous industrial capacity. The point of the slow rollout of NATO support for Ukraine is to ramp up the printing presses and throw huge sums of money at the problem. We’ll out-produce Russia by a factor of 20 at least. If it comes down to a war of supply (like all wars in history) Russia loses hands down.


38 posted on 01/29/2023 12:50:55 PM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: Thilly Thailor

“Germany’s finally learned the lesson that it can’t be dependent on Russia for energy”

I keep hearing that. But cheap energy flowed until the Germans refused to allow Nordstream II to turn on the tap. Then Germany seized their Gazprom terminals and plants. Then Germany joined in cutting them off from banking and impounding their cash and gold. Then Germany refused to let that compressor refurbished in Canada to continue to on to Russia. And then to cap it off, and then we blew up both Nordstream lines and charge them 5 times the price for LNG we can barely deliver.

And the lesson you see in there, is that you cant count on Russia for gas delivery? Amazing disconnect.

The true lesson is that you cannot antagonize and refuse to pay your vendor and expect things to remain the same.

If it still escapes you, go to the nearest restaurant, refuse to pay, flip the tables, pick a fight with the manager and cook. Call him Hitler too. Go back the next day and sit down. Let me know how good the service is.


39 posted on 01/29/2023 12:57:18 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Thilly Thailor

Yeah, because we are flush with money and firing up the printing presses is free money. Especially in inflationary times. We destroy our economy for the right of Kiev to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine.

But hooray, we won!


40 posted on 01/29/2023 1:06:08 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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