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2024: Republicans on Course to Get Blown Out by Phantoms; No one at the top — not Trump, not DeSantis — is doing anything to fight the ballot fraud that will surely plague 2024
American Thinker ^ | 01/19/2023 | Jay Valentine

Posted on 01/19/2023 9:06:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Trump or DeSantis? It doesn't matter. Phantom voters will decide 2024. The phantoms are not voting for either.

Those working deep in swing state voter rolls can tell you with 100% certainty that unless Trump or DeSantis wins with a 5%-to-18% margin in swing states, they will lose every one.

Let's do some electioneering math.

To win the presidency, about a dozen swing states matter — we all know who they are. Some will add Georgia, Virginia, and Arizona, some not.

President Trump won in 2016 because he caught the leftists off guard. Perhaps even Trump was surprised on Election Night — the surprise was so complete!

In 2020, the Dems took no chances.

They had everything wired — but our boy Trump surprised them again — so they shut down the election apparatus at 11:00 P.M. and took matters into their own hands. Nine hours later, problem solved: Joe Biden emerges from a basement, incoherent, to take the oath of office.

That, people, is hardball — professional, take-no-prisoners electioneering. You may hate that the country is being lost, but you must stand back at the sheer breathtaking gall it reflects.

You would think rational electioneers in the Republican Party would, in 2022, do everything to stop the election jiggering that took place in 2020. You would be wrong.

Republicans like Speaker Vos in Wisconsin, the election commission in Maricopa County, New Hampshire RINOs, and the Republican leader in the Senate all stood aside and let the leftists do their thing — thus the Red Trickle.

As the parties pick their candidates for 2024, assembling multi-million-dollar consultant-led electioneering teams, not a dollar is spent on cleaning election rolls.

Let's do an equation. A bet, perhaps.

You and I bet on anything. You pick the bet.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2024; electionfraud; fakenews; florida; rondesantis; stfucruzer
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To: SeekAndFind

For what it’s worth, I believe that a republican will never be elected president again. Not so much a secret coordinated effort but there are plenty of “fellow travelers” out there.

They know nothing will change. They know it’s successful. They will continue to ply their trade.


41 posted on 01/19/2023 9:42:49 AM PST by Weaponier (FREE TEXAS!)
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To: Rich21IE

This is a state problem. The national GOP can only support the state GOP in reforming election laws.

DeSantis curtailed ballot harvesting and many of the loopholes exploited by leftist groups to collect ballots during the election.

But most of the remaining states that need cleaning up (Pennsylvania, Michigan) have Democrat governors who will veto any repairs to the election system.


42 posted on 01/19/2023 9:42:53 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: SeekAndFind

The penalty for any type of fraud in government should be life imprisonment, death, or expulsion. No exceptions.


43 posted on 01/19/2023 9:43:35 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

It won’t be a blow-out. It will be close. Dempublicans will win. Republicrats will lose.


44 posted on 01/19/2023 9:44:18 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: Sirius Lee

You can say that again.


45 posted on 01/19/2023 9:45:15 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: 6thavenue

Ballot fraud is primarily a state problem!

Recent USSC rulings pretty much say that. I don’t completely agree with that interpretation, but I understand where they are coming from. If state voters are ok with state voter fraud, then so is the court. I do not want a federally imposed solution - control of voting any more than what currently exists. I think in the long run that would be more dangerous than the current problem.

However, let me just say this, voting integrity is just as much a form of denying the right to vote as what was done to minorities in the South prior to the Voting Rights Act. Perhaps the cases to the USSC were never pitched to them in that form of argument.


46 posted on 01/19/2023 9:45:34 AM PST by Reily
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To: CivilWarBrewing

The AZ rat SOS certifies (or tosses) the signatures on recall petitions. Then if by some miracle there is a recall the rat SOS counts the votes. You must stop these bastards from getting the power in the first place or you are screwed.


47 posted on 01/19/2023 9:49:08 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Erik Latranyi
DeSantis fixed the voter fraud in Florida, which is why he won.

No, DeSantis didn't fix the vote fraud in Florida.

48 posted on 01/19/2023 9:53:13 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Leaning Right

“Why would the Deep State allow DeSantis to win? If nothing else, he’d appoint more conservative judges than otherwise.”

The thing is the Deep State isn’t one thing. It’s:
* the Generals
* the CEOs
* the TLAs
* the MSM
* the Academics
* the Foreign Agents

They don’t always agree. The first three groups were pro-Bush the others pro-Gore/Kerry. That kept either side from cheating radically.

100% of them were against Trump and they had no constraints in defeating him.

DeSantis will easily get the support of the Generals, the CEOs, and the TLAs. Sure the Academics will hate him, but they alone can’t do much.


49 posted on 01/19/2023 9:53:29 AM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

I understand Mitch, McCarthy and McRomney are all over this like white on rice.


50 posted on 01/19/2023 9:54:25 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: SeekAndFind

The Commies have completed their corruption of the voting apparatus in this Country. That sobering reality was validated in the Midterm Elections. Backing out of this quagmire can no longer be accomplished at the ballot box. If our military patriots are not up to turning things around, we are screwed.


51 posted on 01/19/2023 9:55:22 AM PST by iontheball
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To: PGR88

And yet we haven’t changed me up with those ballots that prove the point. We even had the ninja’s go through with a fine tooth comb every ballot for every accusation and came up empty. No one is that good. Even Trump was resorting to using diversions in the waning days because he had no hard evidence. Just a refusal to admit defeat. And trying to get electionvv by officials to kick up some dust.


52 posted on 01/19/2023 9:56:12 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: Renfrew

Such a foolish premise.

Where should he have gone to college in 1997, not knowing what we know now of Yale and Harvard? Easy to project from today’s view. JAG wasn’t woke then. Many here supported Bush, and John Bolton was well thought of on FR back in the day too.

Easy to put a 2023 lens on things that happened 20-25 years ago, but its not legit. His record as governor is a better representation.


53 posted on 01/19/2023 9:57:49 AM PST by TiGuy22
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a reason the gop doesn’t talk about crooked elections, they know there is nothing they can do about it. It’s too big, the deepstate controls the courts, the gop is willing too shut up and feed off the crumbs from the democrats. Meanwhile, more states that were formerly conservative are being assimilated into the deepstates control.


54 posted on 01/19/2023 10:04:17 AM PST by robel
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To: Renfrew

That was an interesting post, much food for thought.


55 posted on 01/19/2023 10:07:04 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Renfrew

Mini-MAGA is not Deep State but will be used by the Deep State like a cheap whore.


56 posted on 01/19/2023 10:09:08 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

They aren’t doing anything because they don’t believe it’s real.


57 posted on 01/19/2023 10:09:18 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: stanne
If trump says he’s wrong for the job, then he is wrong for the job. Thats how I see it. Humble opinion. That’s all.

Huh?
58 posted on 01/19/2023 10:14:41 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SeekAndFind

On 12/01/2020 Dr.Linda Lee Tarver testified to the Michigan state senate that on average each election 71% of the ballots in the city of Detroit have no chain of custody. Every attempt to clean the mess up came with accusations of racism and wanting to disenfranchise the black vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9y_Wm_yW8&list=WL&index=25&t=1332s


59 posted on 01/19/2023 10:19:15 AM PST by Blue Collar White Guy
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To: SeekAndFind
No one at the top — not Trump, not DeSantis — is doing anything to fight the ballot fraud
Trump and DeSantis?
DeSantis so far is not running for higher office. He is limited to what a governor can do in his state.

Trump has no authority to do anything.

The author is a clueless idiot.

60 posted on 01/19/2023 10:19:28 AM PST by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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