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To: DiogenesLamp

Here you go with that Corwin nonsense again Reb . Lincoln had no intention of saving slavery.

Lincoln declared himself anti-slavery and ran on that platform. Prior to the South’s launching the war Lincoln had wanted to wait to make sure he had both the legal authority to do so and the broader support of the American people to end it.

By de facto and sheer stupidity the South saved him the trouble.

You know something , you know why I call you Reb?

It’s because your f’ing sympathies always coming down on the side of the damned Confederacy, you know that?

For years here you, Diogenes, far above others have ALWAYS been savaging Lincoln but I’ve NEVER seen you ever take that vile creature to task who was the cause of all that transpired between 1861 and 1865, Jefferson Finis Davis.

Why don’t you rip him a new one once and a while?


130 posted on 01/23/2023 11:18:06 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa
Here you go with that Corwin nonsense again Reb . Lincoln had no intention of saving slavery.

Not when he started, but if it came to a choice between losing the money or saving slavery, he picked saving slavery.

Lincoln declared himself anti-slavery and ran on that platform.

Politicians will say whatever they think the majority want to hear. There was a time when I would have believed Lincoln was honest, but that time passed about three years ago.

Prior to the South’s launching the war...

I have no interest in arguing under a false premise.

It’s because your f’ing sympathies always coming down on the side of the damned Confederacy, you know that?

You touch on a point that I was thinking about this very morning. People are too stuck on the South seceding, and if the topic is mentioned, people's minds are so polluted with negative propaganda about the South seeking independence that they cannot argue the essential point without becoming emotionally involved in the discussion.

So this morning I think I hit on a better way to argue the essential point; the essential point being "do states have a right to leave?"

Connecticut and Massachusetts put forth that they had the right to secede at the Hartford convention, I believe in 1814.

Did Connecticut and Massachusetts (and I think some other states) have a right to leave the Union in 1814?

For years here you, Diogenes, far above others have ALWAYS been savaging Lincoln but I’ve NEVER seen you ever take that vile creature to task who was the cause of all that transpired between 1861 and 1865, Jefferson Finis Davis.

That is because I see him as a bystander, and not someone who had control of whether or not there was a war. Only Lincoln controlled this. No other person did or could.

Why don’t you rip him a new one once and a while?

He is insignificant. A nobody in the larger scheme of things.

134 posted on 01/24/2023 10:04:57 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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