Not when he started, but if it came to a choice between losing the money or saving slavery, he picked saving slavery.
Lincoln declared himself anti-slavery and ran on that platform.
Politicians will say whatever they think the majority want to hear. There was a time when I would have believed Lincoln was honest, but that time passed about three years ago.
Prior to the South’s launching the war...
I have no interest in arguing under a false premise.
It’s because your f’ing sympathies always coming down on the side of the damned Confederacy, you know that?
You touch on a point that I was thinking about this very morning. People are too stuck on the South seceding, and if the topic is mentioned, people's minds are so polluted with negative propaganda about the South seeking independence that they cannot argue the essential point without becoming emotionally involved in the discussion.
So this morning I think I hit on a better way to argue the essential point; the essential point being "do states have a right to leave?"
Connecticut and Massachusetts put forth that they had the right to secede at the Hartford convention, I believe in 1814.
Did Connecticut and Massachusetts (and I think some other states) have a right to leave the Union in 1814?
For years here you, Diogenes, far above others have ALWAYS been savaging Lincoln but I’ve NEVER seen you ever take that vile creature to task who was the cause of all that transpired between 1861 and 1865, Jefferson Finis Davis.
That is because I see him as a bystander, and not someone who had control of whether or not there was a war. Only Lincoln controlled this. No other person did or could.
Why don’t you rip him a new one once and a while?
He is insignificant. A nobody in the larger scheme of things.
Lincoln needed a battle field victory for impetus to enact the Emancipation Proclamation.The Battle of Antietam gave him that impetus. You have no interest in admitting the South launched the war? You're a poor debater Diogenes and a politically and historically ignorant one at that. Jeff Davis was a bystander? That's like saying Hitler was a bystander in starting WW2. Jefferson Davis was the catalyst for the war and when, after Gettysburg it was obvious the South would lose the war instead of seeing the hand writing on the wall that the war was lost and the Union blockade was starving the South he could have ended it but both Davis, and Lee continued the slaughter for another two years. So your are a Reb after all. While you seem to be an agreeable sort, over all, as knowing anything of the causes of the Civil War, respectfully dude, you're dumb as dirt.