Posted on 01/18/2023 6:26:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/01/17/fact-check-biden-had-authority-declassify-vice-president/11065345002/
Per Obama Ex Order 2009 a VP may classify and declassify his own documents but may not change the classification of existing documents.
You’re trying to say apples and oranges are the same.
Nice try, troll.
This Demonrat defense of Biden just destroyed the rationale for prosecuting Trump.
I’d call it a “Red October” torpedo!
You beat me to it. I will wait until somebody that knows what he is talking about (Professor Turley) weighs in on this.
This sounds very similar to judge shopping.
But if he had that privilege, why were these not declassified? Why did his lawyers stir all of this up...for something that he purportedly had the ability to declassify?
Ok. If they were declassified, we should be able to see them.
They should make them available through a FOIA request.
If any knows it would be Sudiksha Kochi. An “expert” on America.
As recently as 2021, she was an intern at Politifact.
These are the same people that laughed when Trump said he had the same authority.
The reason for the uproar is that neither Trump(who I love), nor Biden had authority to take these home. They belong to the National Archives after leaving office. Under lock and key under Archive control. That’s the problem.
Even if Biden had the authority to declassify there would still have to be a paper trail of notifications to various agencies that also held the documents and therefore needed to be informed of their downgraded status.
“It is longstanding practice in the executive branch to treat the vice president as having the same amount of authority in that respect as the president unless the president explicitly says otherwise,” McClanahan said.‘
My BS meter is pegging. VP’s may get an occasional lunch with the Prez, be given some special assignment or attend weddings. Beyond that they don’t do much.
Same amount of authority? LOL
And any of those "few" documents could have had nuclear secrets.
“It is longstanding practice in the executive branch to treat the vice president as having the same amount of authority in that respect as the president unless the president explicitly says otherwise,” McClanahan said.
Ok, let’s review all docs Veeps have declassified and what they did with them.
McClanahan, who also teaches at the George Washington University Law School, said that under a 2009 executive order signed by Obama, the vice president is included in a list of “original classification authorities,” meaning Biden had the power declassify anything he classified.
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Where did Obama get the authority do delegate his Constitutional powers as head of the executive branch?
Actually I think Harris is relieved
“So, if they say Biden can declassify documents and there’s no record of it, and they insist, anyway, then President Trump can do same. Right?”
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Nope.
Biden patted his stomach and burped before taking them. Trump didn’t.
“That don’t mean he can take them home, does it????”
And that’s the point, he can if they are totally declassified and are no longer a threat to the country and the archive releases their control of them. They are a laundry list at that point. But it isn’t “always” easy to declassify a document as there are rules and a paper trail too many times to follow. An example:
Some of the documents the FBI retrieved from Mar-a-Lago had Formerly Restricted Data classification markings on them. Formerly Restricted Data can include information about the nuclear stockpile size, current and past locations of nuclear weapons, weapons yield information (i.e., how powerful they are), and above- or below-ground test results. Under long-standing interpretations of the Atomic Energy Act, such information may be declassified only by the Departments of Energy and Defense. The president is thwarted with this type of document by previous actions of congress.
However, if a president alters a document’s classification status for some other reason like it being more convenient for him to work at home than in a secure facility, or he simply failed to apply the required protections, such an action is arguably an abdication of his Article II responsibility rather than an exercise of it. And the only difference I have seen on both men is that the documents have never been identified as being worked with. (Especially Biden having the documents in his possession back during his terms as VP. He certainly hasn’t been working the documents for 6 to 7 years especially without the use of a security scif that Trump had in Florida)
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Section 3.1.b.1 covers Biden declassifying if he originally classified. A limited exception in fact. “(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;”
Gannett is a joke, people who work there are a joke, it's not even Gannett really it's GateHouse Media minus the tv, spun off into Tegna.
Trump claims Mar-a-Lago documents were 'declassified.' Why experts reject that argument, USATODAY.comWASHINGTON — "Former President Donald Trump claimed Friday that any sensitive documents FBI agents took during a search at his Mar-a-Lago property in Palm Beach, Florida, were "all declassified."
But experts said constitutional powers authorizing a president to declassify documents don't apply to records classified as top-secret or higher, as the information contained in them is usually protected by other federal laws designed to make sure it never falls into the wrong hands."
I was wondering when they create a loop hole and or change the rules.
Brandon is as pure as fresh snow. Beyond reproach. And he likes little girls.
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