Putin’s Efforts to Divide the West Over Ukraine Fall Flat

The New York Times ^ | 9th January 2023 | Max Fisher

[caww]

I do not support Russia nor Ukraine - I oppose this conflict period. I also oppose the fact that all we see and hear is predominately from Ukraine....Kiev primarily. And it’s well known even those closest to Zelensky said they do and will lie without any regrets because that’s how Ukraine operates.

I don’t give two hoots who you or others support. This was never and still isn’t a conflict that should be supported by anyone. It’s a dang shame the US and other nations got envolved LONG before Russia went into Ukraine.

[ansel12]

You support the enemy, the “conflict” is an invasion by that enemy.

I hope our troops over there don’t endure much winter cold as they work to supply our side with equipment and ammo.

[caww]

You cannot speak for me - you do not have that right ansel. I've made it clear from the beginning and before this conflict never had to happen, there were plenty of options available to prevent it.

However true to form for ‘Ukraines entire history’ they cannot function apart from conflict in their country and among each other. They never pay their own way and even their public laughs that Ukraine always gets new buildings and advances economically when they have conflicts.

[ansel12]

Ukraine isn’t attacking anyone, they are fighting for their lives against the military that you are supporting.

That is why our American men and women are over there and working to support the Ukrainians while defending us from further Russian invasions.

[caww]

Not one single American should be in Ukraines war - not one.

[ansel12]

No American GIs are in the fighting but they and the rest of NATO are on the fringes protecting you and me from the Russian war machine and aiding the small European nation that Russia is currently trying to conquer.

[caww]

This is how you're justifying this war

[dforest]

American Patriots don’t give a rats behind for Ukraine or Russia. They are not part of our country. They are Europe’s problem.

[dforest]

It’s the Ukes bombing their own people that is the problem. They can’t shoot straight without foreign help.

[dforest]

Sounds like you are about as realistic and brain dead as the German you quoted.

[ansel12]

I don’t even know what that childish cartoon means.

Send it to our GIs defending us from Russia and explain to them why you oppose them and support the Russians instead.

[dforest]

They aren’t defending us from anyone. Cut out the nonsense. They are being used for the NWO. Not America.

I wish they were here defending us from the commie takeover of America that is going on.

[caww]

no.

[caww]

Russia isn’t attacking us.

[ansel12]

LOL, I hardly think that our forces in Europe and our 30 nation alliance keeping Europe stable is “nonsense”.

Trump’s aggressive actions in Europe were serious stuff, bringing back V Corps and moving it to Poland to get it closer to the enemy, arming Ukraine, and prodding other NATO nations to disengage from Russia and arm-up were very real.

[ansel12]

Weird post, you must have meant it for someone else.

[Sunsong]

keep reading it child:

“If Putin wanted peace,” Germany’s foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock, wrote last week on Twitter in response to Russia’s cease-fire proposal,

“he would take his soldiers home and the war would be over.”

[caww]

Is this your way of continuing a conversation that I've clearly said NO to furthering.....you asked for an explanation - I said no. End of story. Furthermore it does end here and now.

[ansel12]

Another weird post, that must be for someone else.

[McGruff]

More pro Ukraine propaganda.