Posted on 01/09/2023 8:00:08 AM PST by Cronos
I care about the ordinary Ukrainians and have expressed that on here many times. I feel for them, having to suffer such awful loss and terrible conditions because of the egos that are driving this mess.
I loathe Zelensky, though. His constant, yappy demands for our money make my skin crawl.
You’ve just made my point.
The West is not holding back on sending weapons and ammunition to Ukraine. Just the opposite. The United States and NATO have sent Ukraine an unprecedented amount of aid and it has not stopped the Russians. Moreover, the United States and NATO no longer have ample stocks of some key weapon systems and ammunition, especially artillery shells, to send to Ukraine. The military cupboard is bare.
But let us ignore reality and indulge the fantasy that NATO can magically find, “longer-range missiles, advanced drones, significant ammunition stocks (including artillery shells), and more reconnaissance and surveillance capability” to send to Ukraine. Who is going to operate those weapon systems? And the timeline for training Ukrainian troops to operate these systems with some measure of competence is counted in months at a minimum.
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Multiple sources now are reporting that Ukraine is suffering catastrophic casualties as they desperately try to hold on the Bakhmut:
Russian forces have ground down their Ukrainian opponents in fierce fighting near Bakhmut/Artyomovsk, with an American mercenary commander recently acknowledging that Ukraine is suffering “extraordinarily high casualties” in that sector, and Ukraine’s ambassador to Canada, Vadim Pristaiko, describing his side’s casualties as “huge” and “indigestible.”
Kiev has publicly proclaimed that it plans a major offensive in the spring, but Rice and Gates wrote that Ukraine may have “weeks, not months” to stay in the fight.
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/273331096/ukraine-running-out-of-time-former-us-officials
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The truth is that Russia is methodically moving forward and Ukraine has been unable to mount a credible counter offense.
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Robert Gates and Condoleezza Rice got one thing right, Ukraine may only have weeks, not months, before it is overwhelmed.
Nope. Just because my opinion differs from yours does not make me “incoherent.”
I remain opposed to any more of my tax dollars going to a very corrupt “leader,” especially since there’s no accountability for those funds.
Just because “it’s a drop in the bucket” as you say - doesn’t make it right.
American patriots do NOT support crime syndicates like Ukraine used by globalists such as Obama, Jao Bai-din, Hunter Biden, the Vindman brothers, Zelensky, the Romneys, etc. to rip off the U.S. taxpayers among other crimes.
Because the war was not started by Victoria Nuland.
Russia is invading Ukraine for Putin’s ego.
You repeated a vague Putin propaganda claim that has no merit. It ignores the events in Ukraine that lead to the crisis, ignores the will of the people of Ukraine (half a mil in the streets in bitter cold), ignores high-level FSB advisors and planeloads of weapons sent from Russia to Kiev (fully documented), but blames the US.
The Ukrainian government collapsed at the end of 2013 not because of relations with the United States, but because the unpopularity of a trade deal with would have locked Ukraine into a Russia-dominated bloc and made a politically more popular deal with the European Union impossible.
The EU and USA started this crisis by their sole existence. Because it provided an alternative governance to Putinism. Ukraine had the exact same governance as Russia but no oil. Ukrainians demanded same democracy as EU, Putin saw that and decided to demoralize large pro western segment by starting a war. Its simple as that, Lenin wanted destroy democracies because they provided a viable alternative to communist party, Putin wants to make democracies as a joke and unstable.
The largest American contribution to the crisis was made by Paul Manafort, who helped Viktor Yanukovych become president. However, he didn’t act on the behalf of the United States and was told by the US ambassador in Kiev that he was working against US interests.
Ukraine is not a crime syndicate.
It is a country with people moving towards democracy who were invaded by a dictatorship.
You don't get to make the rules. Any American who supports the vax and/or Ukraine is working for the deep state cause. That is an indisputable fact. How can an indisputable fact be a 'false generalization' or an 'ad hominem attack'?
Untwist your panties.
This American patriot does. This American patriot is an enemy of the TRUE enemy, the International Deep State, just as Trump and Putin are.
Notice its always 'Ukraine vs Putin'. Why not Zelensky vs Putin, or Ukraine vs Russia. Where have we seen that propaganda tactic before?
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. "
~ Rule for Radical #13 - Saul Alinsky .
This is the fundamental BIG LIE that blinds you and yours to the reality of what is really going on in the world. You are a small thinker and ripe for any psyop the deep state lays out.
This Patriot does too. Ditto.
You give zero explanation for why you say “it is a big lie”
Give an explanation
you support Putin? a dictator who hates America?
I support Russia over Ukraine. Ukraine is a tool of the true enemy. You may recall that Russia/Putin was working with Trump in the war against the Deep State. He still is. You are on the wrong side of history. If you had your mind right, you would recognize the players in this world-wide conflict.
But feel free to continue thinking as a small child if it makes you happy.
First of all, you don't boss me. But I will indulge your ignorance just this once.
To say Russia invaded Ukraine for 'Putin's ego' is to think as a simpleton. There is so much more involved in it that maybe it boggles your mind and is too much for you.
From George Soros, to the EU, to NATO (all Deep State), to Biden, Hillary, and the entire Deep State propaganda machine and every Derp functionary in between supporting Ukraine, there is a reason.
Figure out the reason, and you'll understand why 'Putin's ego' is a BIG LIE. You simply must understand this or you will continue to be a parrot of the enemy.
Our American GIs in Europe are stationed there to defend against Russia and are giving their support to Ukraine as are all of our European allies, and even neutral European nations.
America, NATO, our military, are in opposition to the military force you support.
Absolutely not. Ukraine is a crime syndicate created by Obama's Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, Victoria Nuland, who engineered Ukraine’s "regime change" in 2014. She directed the overthrow of legitimately elected President Viktor Yanukovych and had the U.S. Propaganda Media spread the lie that it wasn’t really a coup but a victory for "democracy".
They don't just "do it over there", they do it in this country as well; the elections of 2018, 2020, and 2022. They tried in 2016 but miscalculated the level of cheating they'd need to overcome the great Donald Trump. The didn't make that mistake again in 2020 and got the RINOs on board to help.
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