Posted on 12/31/2022 5:53:04 AM PST by C210N
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The problem with these mail-in voting laws, Teufel said, is that they fail to specify a place for someone to vote when they vote by mail, which violates Article 1, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution. The election clause in that section states, “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof.”
Teufel said that this clause mandates that states must specify places where federal elections are held. Because the mail-in voting law in Pennsylvania does not specify a place, it essentially allows a voter to vote from anywhere in the world. By requiring a set location, the law allows people to observe the voting process and, he said, “verify that there is nothing being done incorrectly, no corruption, no bribery, no intimidation, et cetera, happening.”
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Mail-in voting = VOTER FRAUD
It’s not rocket science...
Take a look at the clause again.
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof.
Notice the "and". That has meaning. It means that each one of the items listed "shall be prescribed". That means that "Places" must be prescribed. The items listed are not just an "option". All three (Times, Places and Manner) must be prescribed. The state legislature cannot skip prescribing "Places" just because the "Manner" is prescribed.
I don’t think the mail voting will get tossed as there has to be mail in ballots for military members deployed of stationed away from their permanent residence and absentee ballots for those away from home. I understand if someone is at their residence and can vote at a specific locality but chooses to mail in their ballot is different from absentee voting but I don’t see the liberal and swing voting supremes stopping mail-in voting.
Great reply, thanks.
That concept could be gleaned from the petition that very few will digest.
Folks here, please be aware that while the petition is over 280 pages, reading just page 2 thru 24 is the meat of the sandwich. The remainder are supporting documents.
Hobbs’s lawyer was the lawyer from Perkins Coi—Mark Elias
Constitutionality the word the democrats hate most it’s the first on their kill list.
“...SCOTUS to Consider Taking Case on Constitutionality of Mail-In Voting ...”
N O W ???????????????
Who woke them up??
I hate mail in and would ban it . . . but . . . Isn’t a post office box a “place”?
The Brunsons are serial pro-se litigators, and they have lost before.
Both of these cases will be denied.
Doesn't that bring in chain of custody issues?
A secure drop box at the post office, perhaps.
Perhaps you missed the first comment by C210N. It includes this statement:
The mandatory “shall” language in Article I, § 4 with regard to prescribing places for holding elections has no significance if states are instead free to allow voters to vote in federal elections literally everywhere and anywhere. Everywhere is not a prescribed place. It is a total failure to prescribe places for holding elections to prescribe an unlimited number of places for voting.
Has your particular post office box been explicitly prescribed as a voting place by your state legislature?
But, we've come full circle now... the PO does not add any value against chain of custody. Fact is, we have no idea who dropped off a ballot, regardless of whether it is in the wilderness or at a POB. Only at a designated 'place' of voting, where said voter votes, does the chain begin.
I’m all for paper ballot and ID. Citizen voters only. Clean voter rolls.
Also keep in mind the Delaware supreme court ruled that the mail in balloting in DE was unconstitutional and Delaware’s constitution has similar wording as PA.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I don’t see SCOTUS stepping into the powers of the state legislatures. If people don’t want mail-in ballots, then elect a legislature that will amend their state constitutions. The remedy is already in place: and I think that is how they will rule.
They could run a gerbil for president and they’d still get elected. They’ve done it before
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At least 3 times since 2008 that I know of.
You may have a point with that. Still, I think it's a stretch to expect much out of this tactic. As I mentioned, there's quite a bit more to hang a hat on when going after mail-in voting. Citizenship and identity verification of the voter as a legal ballot-caster seems a better track.
One place, one day, one methodology (paper and ink) would be ideal. Then clean voter rolls.
“And btw, bald guys don’t stand a chance. How many bald heads are in Congress now?”
There are quite a few bald guys in congress. Just off the top of my head...Chip Roy (R-TX), Kevin Brady (R-TX), Cory Booker (D-NJ) and Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), just to name a few.
Thousands of cases get dates for conference - in fact, every single one that doesn’t get rejected for obvious filing issues such as way-out-of-time pro se prisoner petitions gets slated for conference. These will be “discussed” at conference by being placed on the deny list after conference with many others.
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