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Dem States Are Worried They Can’t Pay Out Retirement Benefits
Daily Caller ^ | 12/28/2022 | LAUREL DUGGAN

Posted on 12/29/2022 7:22:26 AM PST by Bon of Babble

Three high-profile Democratic governors are struggling to stabilize their states’ retirement programs due to a falling stock market and may have difficulties paying out benefits in the coming years.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: pensionfunds; pensions
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To: Bon of Babble

Oh lawdy...

Taxpayers in Red states will be forced to cough up funds to cover the Blue states’ shortfall.


21 posted on 12/29/2022 7:51:12 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Bon of Babble

Ca. has been upside down for at least the last 60 years.


22 posted on 12/29/2022 7:53:39 AM PST by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: Bon of Babble

For Pritzker to blame Republicans for the pension mess in this State is absolutely absurd. The IL GOP have been willing parties to this mess for decades.

They couldn’t have done anything about it even if they’d wanted to. The Dems have a stranglehold on Illinois and will for the foreseeable future.

L


23 posted on 12/29/2022 7:53:53 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
When you can’t pay out retirement benefits it’s because the retirees didn’t produce enough during their careers to cover those benefits.

Many state pensions were/are based on employe AND government contributions per each pay check.. What many states did was decide not to contribute their promised share with real money & replaced that with IOUs, which means future taxpayers hold the bag. Not exactly the same, but our Fed government took the huge baby boomer surplus in the SS trust fund, spent it, and replaced OUR money with IOUs.

24 posted on 12/29/2022 7:54:06 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Bon of Babble

They will ask the federal government to bail them out. Another reason why the Dems will continue to steal elections.


25 posted on 12/29/2022 7:55:24 AM PST by kabar
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To: SMARTY

Simple answer, borrow more money. Put bailout bonds on the ballot in the next election, it will pass easily,People have no problem spending other people’s money.


26 posted on 12/29/2022 7:56:45 AM PST by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Don’t worry, Fed.gov will create a boatload of debt, the Federal Reserve will buy it, and blue states will get their “stimulus.”

Wash-rinse-repeat.


27 posted on 12/29/2022 7:57:14 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Bon of Babble

No problemo!

JUST RAISE TAXES!................................


28 posted on 12/29/2022 7:58:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dfwgator
Don’t worry the US Taxpayer will bail them out.

These failed Blue states conspired to steal the elections of 2020 and 2022 in order to force productive Red states to bail them out.

They've been warned for decades that it was coming and instead of fixing their problems, they decided to go for broke and force others to bail them out.

California, New York, or Illinois, which will go first?

29 posted on 12/29/2022 7:59:36 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Bon of Babble

Only surprise is New York’s not there yet.


30 posted on 12/29/2022 8:00:51 AM PST by mykroar (what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how. - J0eStalin)
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To: Bon of Babble
Gavin Newsom's predecessor was Governor Moonbeam Jerry Brown. Even with a GOP governor (Schwarzenneger?), the Democrat/Communist Assembly
has always run the show with its bullet=proof super majority.
31 posted on 12/29/2022 8:03:31 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: butlerweave

So the state and municipal employees who vote for the most far left radicals available as their leaders, will not be able to collect their public pensions in the future?

Incompetence begets incompetence.


32 posted on 12/29/2022 8:06:02 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: butlerweave

OVER 300,000 people left Calif in 2022 so far.

Workers who leave do NOT pay state taxes.

State taxes are not collected to keep building the pension funds.


33 posted on 12/29/2022 8:09:55 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Bon of Babble
The solution is simple and, in the broad scheme of things, relatively painless. Just write down future benefits to whatever the plan can actually pay on an actuarily sound basis. If public employees in the bankrupt states take a 25-50 percent haircut, they will still have richer pensions than most people in the private sector. It's not the end of the world if the gubmint class rejoins America.

Follow up immediately with the demand that all pensions, going forward, must be fully funded and privatized, subject to prudent diversification rules.

34 posted on 12/29/2022 8:09:57 AM PST by sphinx
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To: SMARTY

Murphy so wanted to blame Christie, but he couldn’t. Christie jumped up and down (hence the earth quakes) about the pension needing reform and was lambasted by Murphy, the dem legislature and the Unions. It was the one and pretty much only thing the Obama hugger tried to do.


35 posted on 12/29/2022 8:10:56 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: absalom01

CALPERS will be fine.

Illegal aliens pay lots of state income tax....

Bwahahahahahaha.

(After they run out of cash they can do it the third world Argentina way—give pensioners IOUs payable in twenty years!)


36 posted on 12/29/2022 8:14:23 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

It works like this:

Prior employees paid into retirement-—but at a much lower rate than today’s workers...THOSE workers earned alot less.

EVERY state/Federal retirement fund DEPENDS on TODAY’S workers to keep the funds afloat.

UNIONS keep demanding more & more freebies that were never planned for 30 + years ago.

MORE workers FLEE a state due to crime & taxes-—

The base population that is paying into the pension fund now SHRINKS-—

OVER 300,000 people left Calif already in 2022.

The people who do the ‘actuarial tables’ are working against the tide...........

STATES also RAID pension funds for any reasons they can think of-—

Governors in place NOW will NOT be there in 20 years for the current workers to prosecute.


37 posted on 12/29/2022 8:16:11 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: sphinx

The other issue with state pension systems is that the asset managers are given sweetheart deals with kickbacks to the state politicians.

Everybody rips off the funds on the front and back end.


38 posted on 12/29/2022 8:16:41 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Don Corleone

YOU are correct:

Ask yourself:

HOW MANY “PENSIONS” is Jerry Brown collecting???

I don’t think I have the order correct-—BUT:

He was State Attorney General===pension

He was elected Governor===another pension

He was elected Governor AGAIN—with time in between==another pension

He was Mayor of Oakland for years=== Another pension

I count possibly 4 PENSIONS being paid by Calif taxpayers to ONE DEMOCRAT


39 posted on 12/29/2022 8:20:11 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Bon of Babble

As well they should be. They have bribed the public sector unions with these promised pensions. Now it’s time to pay and ... Oops!


40 posted on 12/29/2022 8:21:02 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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