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To: Lazamataz

“ And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Jefferson…a Founding Father and one of the significant authors of the Constitution that is now in such discussion here.

The Constitution HAS been abrogated and is already non-functioning, having been rendered so by a a political faction that effectively took control of the government via a lawfare coup d’etat. After doing so, they proceeded to prove it by again manipulating and engaging in fraud in the succeeding election.

The Constitution is already non-functional. It is not guiding the administration, the separation of powers has been bludgeoned non-sensical at this point. And even in the point that led to this discussion, the First Amendment has been openly strangled by the government of United States for the purpose of ensuring that elections would not threaten their hold on governmental power.

This discussion about whether Trump is calling for a suspension of the Constitution is pedantic at best, and more to the point, utterly ridiculous. The Constitution no longer exists as a governing document as it was openly abrogated - trashed - many times over by the current ruling junta. If we are worried about the Constitution we should be concerned with how it will be RESTORED. And that will require the forcible removal of the current government that burned it to the ground. And THAT will require extra-Constitutional means. (Such as described in the opening quotation).


306 posted on 12/03/2022 8:13:15 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Nevertheless, it is still the order under which we live. Even if the Constitution were as irrelevant as you seem to believe it is, we should still live as if it weren’t. The framers of this system did not govern themselves as if the Articles of Confederation were null and void while they were framing this government.... they also had the foresight to insert remedies if this sytem should fail... we haven’t even approached those yet... that is amendment and/or constitutional convention...


313 posted on 12/03/2022 8:18:40 PM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Well said,Scott.


417 posted on 12/04/2022 12:00:15 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
This discussion about whether Trump is calling for a suspension of the Constitution is pedantic at best, and more to the point, utterly ridiculous.

You nailed it buddy. The article and a great deal of the comments in the thread are absolute trash.

422 posted on 12/04/2022 2:09:23 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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