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GOP rep says there are 20 firm ‘no’ votes against McCarthy as Speaker
The Hill ^ | 11/29/2022 | Jared Gans

Posted on 11/29/2022 8:41:56 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Vaduz
If McCarthy doesn’t get does a democrat?

Whoever gets 218 votes first is Speaker.

If McCarthy fails, and the Democrats are only 4 votes short of 218, then, yes, your next Speaker will probably be Nancy Pelosi or Hakeem Jeffries.

21 posted on 11/29/2022 9:27:58 AM PST by Jim Noble (The Decline of America is a Choice )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Not really. The RINO party has probably lined up enough Democrat votes to take care of it.


22 posted on 11/29/2022 9:29:30 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: hanamizu

“Someone explain to me how that makes things better.”

You’d have to replace about a hundred RINOs to “make things better”.


23 posted on 11/29/2022 9:32:22 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In the words of HRC, at this point what difference does it make?


24 posted on 11/29/2022 9:38:11 AM PST by No Party Affiliation
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The NO votes are increasing.


25 posted on 11/29/2022 9:42:33 AM PST by lee martell
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To: ChicagoConservative27
You'll note that not a single democrat is 'at risk' of its vote. The only people who have to vote for the 'lesser of 2 evils' are republicans.
26 posted on 11/29/2022 9:48:52 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Ingtar

RINOs have been trusting Democraps for years. It’s like Lucy and the football when Charley Brown tries to kick it.


27 posted on 11/29/2022 9:51:17 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.for corruptiion)
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To: Jim Noble

If so the democrats still have a shot of stonewalling congress a Pelosi lives event.

#*!Z#.............


28 posted on 11/29/2022 9:54:21 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: HamiltonJay

Alternatively, if the Democrat/Communist bloc has an opportunity to re-elect Pelosi as Speaker if they remain solid, they may do just that.


29 posted on 11/29/2022 9:55:01 AM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: HamiltonJay

What is the alternative? I would love Jim Jordan from Ohio, but McCarthy would rather lose and have the gavel back to Nancy Pelosi. LOSERS ALL!!!


30 posted on 11/29/2022 9:55:36 AM PST by Kaiser8408a (z)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This should be easy, cut a deal with the Freedom caucus and govern like a conservative.


31 posted on 11/29/2022 9:56:16 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SaxxonWoods

You’d have to replace about a hundred RINOs to “make things better”.


That will take time. For right now, the best we can hope for is stop letting things get worse. Maybe a committee with subpoena power to investigate Hunter & The Big Guy’s business dealings.

But things aren’t going to get a lot better for a while.


32 posted on 11/29/2022 9:59:15 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If, hypothetically, Pelosi or another Democrat was elected speaker, who would assign committees? Would the Republicans still be the majority on committees?


33 posted on 11/29/2022 10:00:04 AM PST by CraigEsq
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To: Red Badger

I’ve thought that also.

It’d be funny.


34 posted on 11/29/2022 10:04:09 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

McCarthy is right. If the FreedomCaucus and their friends put opposing McCarthy above anything else, and as a result no GOP gets a majority, and eventually the vote is lost to a Dim, it will be on the heads of the FreedomCaucus and their friends if a Dim becomes speaker, in spite of a GOP majority.

McCarthy should hold an internal GOP vote before, with all GOP members required attendance and based on that vote ask for recommendations of how to keep the speaker’s office in GOP hands. Some are going to have to compromise and that should be agreed on internally before the formal House vote for speaker. If the Freedom caucus and their friends don’t go along, the result will be on their heads.


35 posted on 11/29/2022 10:15:25 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli
McCarthy should hold an internal GOP vote before, with all GOP members required attendance and based on that vote ask for recommendations of how to keep the speaker’s office in GOP hands. Some are going to have to compromise

Including McCarthy, who needs to be pulled to the right.

36 posted on 11/29/2022 10:17:51 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Round Earther
I agree! I feel that after what Trump has been put thru he has earned that spot. He also has the right to savage every democrat he can all the time. Republicans are soft and there is no need to work with Joe Biden ever. He deserves to be worked against at all times and setting trump in as speaker ends any more bullshit Just to see the liberal heads explode it would be worth it.
37 posted on 11/29/2022 10:18:49 AM PST by Plumberman27
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To: Kaiser8408a

Sounds to me like you are one of the few who understands the stakes, and see McCarthy for who he really is.

It truly is up to McCarthy. If he had the stones to agree to the much needed rules changes that will help the Congress return to sanity, We the People might have a shot at seeing some of the desired changes, but, if he is the type you and I suspect, nothing will change and we could indeed end up with a democrat speaker.

He was involved in a press conference this morning and was just full of words Republicans love to hear. I didn’t believe a word.


38 posted on 11/29/2022 10:31:02 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Wuli

If the FreedomCaucus and their friends put opposing McCarthy above anything else, and as a result no GOP gets a majority, and eventually the vote is lost to a Dim, it will be on the heads of the FreedomCaucus and their friends if a Dim becomes speaker, in spite of a GOP majority.

McCarthy is the one holding all the cards. He will decide what takes place and no one else. His decision alone. Anything else is pure BS.


39 posted on 11/29/2022 10:35:09 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: SaxxonWoods
You’d have to replace about a hundred RINOs to “make things better”

150-170.

"Taking over the GOP" is impossible, and were it done, what was left wouldn't be worth having.

40 posted on 11/29/2022 10:41:32 AM PST by Jim Noble (The Decline of America is a Choice )
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