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NATO chief says ‘door is open’ to Ukraine
The Hill ^ | 11/29/2022 | Brad Dress

Posted on 11/29/2022 6:48:36 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: buwaya
Its run two general elections since 2014. What country is more sovereign than that?

Elections that didn't include the Eastern half of the country, which by the way, gave the most votes to the President ejected by the 2014 coup (promoted by Victoria Nuland, John McCain, Chris Murphy, etc...)

Its as if the USA held a Presidential election and didn't include Texas, Florida, or most of the South.

Is that legitimate?

61 posted on 11/29/2022 9:23:20 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Allegra

To be clear, your particular heart and mind are not worth having. Some of you lot are simply corrupt beyond redemption.

Back when I was a kid we used to listen to the US Armed Forces Radio broadcasts from Camp John Hay. We had no TV in those days, TV was new in the country and our parents thought it was some frivolous thing we could do without. The AF Radio used to play old radio serials - one was “The Shadow”, a favorite - and it began - “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?”

And that is the point of it all, isn’t it? Such a profound question to put before little kids. It takes a lifetime to attempt an answer, as, of course, we are not equipped with the mystical advantages of “The Shadow”. But age, experience and perspective answers this. The answers often aren’t welcome.

But it is what it is.


62 posted on 11/29/2022 9:26:02 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: PGR88

They did include the “eastern half” of the country, other than the two very small “breakaway” republics. And you would know that if you had bothered to look it up. I despise lazy, unprepared people.

I have fired people for this. You would not have lasted long, working for me.


63 posted on 11/29/2022 9:30:35 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

I don’t read your posts. You’re just another quivering member of the ankle-nipper pack.

Please run along and kindly refrain from pinging me.

Thanks. Have a nice day.


64 posted on 11/29/2022 9:36:30 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Allegra

One disputes with the devil, not for the devils sake, but on behalf of the congregation.

As for the devil, cf the book of Jude, 9, the Archangel Michael tells the devil simply “The Lord rebuke you”.


65 posted on 11/29/2022 9:46:20 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: canuck_conservative

No where did I defend Ivan in this crap burger. But the west has boxed themselves into a corner with one stupid decision after another leading up to this war, and they continue as the war drags on. In the process the west has destroyed their economies. Putin bears responsibility for the invasion but the west cut their own throat with their asinine sanctions and their response so far. But as I said the war whores are gonna have their war, got to have that blood flowing on both sides and there is $ to be made.


66 posted on 11/29/2022 9:49:14 AM PST by sarge83
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To: EEGator; Jim Noble; Boogieman

Trump not only reactivated the American V Corps to strengthen NATO, but he also moved its European Headquarters to Poland’s NATO border with Russia.


67 posted on 11/29/2022 9:49:36 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What an idiot


68 posted on 11/29/2022 9:55:04 AM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: buwaya
I have fired people for this. You would not have lasted long, working for me.

You sound like a twat boss, who sensible people refuse to work for, leaving you with only the low IQ lackeys who have learned to always agree with you.

The "small" breakaway republics you mention, and places that didn't participate in 2014 elections, included 6+ million people. The party that Represented them, The Party of the Regions (which also was the party of ousted President Yanukovych) was prior to 2014 the largest party in Ukraine mostly refused to participate, and collapsed after the 2014 coup.

voter suppression in majority-Russian places like Odessa, Mariupol were clear and documents. Look up "Odessa Trade Union House" and tell me if you think the vote would be fair there, twat.

69 posted on 11/29/2022 9:57:02 AM PST by PGR88
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To: buwaya

I find you extremely pretentious and tiresome.

Your insufferable blather fails to cover for your lack of knowledge or ability to reason, not to mention your woeful lack of class or integrity.

If you insist on pinging me with your monotonous bloviating, then carry on. It’s your time you’ll be wasting. I will no longer respond to you and as I said before, I’m not reading your posts. Maybe your fellow ankle-nippers will, who knows?


70 posted on 11/29/2022 10:00:08 AM PST by Allegra
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Actions speak louder than words. And don’t see any action on Ukraine joining NATO.


71 posted on 11/29/2022 10:01:18 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: EEGator

“My STFU to the Canadian is part of the discussion. You don’t like it, but it’s an opinion nonetheless.”

No, it’s an attempt to shut down the discussion. It’s one thing to say, “You’re full of @#$%;” that just says, “I don’t agree with you; I think you’re wrong.” But saying, “STFU!” says: “I don’t want to hear you.”

The former challenges the other’s opinion (which is fine); the latter attempts to shut it down (which is what Democrats and the left do).


72 posted on 11/29/2022 10:09:22 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

People can talk and suggest whatever they want.

Ukraine was not close to being quailed before all of this started. They are even less qualified today.

It takes action from the member’s governments to accept new applications. There is zero chance that Ukraine gets the votes. This hadn’t changed since 1991.

A bunch of people saying something doesn’t make it remotely true.


73 posted on 11/29/2022 10:19:14 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Jim Noble

“Another unfortunate error from 1919.”

The current northwestern tip of Turkey is part of what used to be ancient Thrace. The Ottoman Empire controlled all or most of it at one time or another. After WWI, Turkey kept Eastern Thrace, which is that part of current Turkey that lies within the European continent.


74 posted on 11/29/2022 10:28:26 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: AAABEST; canuck_conservative

“Why don’t you just suckle Canada-boy? It’ll make you STFU for a while... so please do.”

You guys always reduce everything to some sort of sexual fixation. It is your default mode. You are wholly incapable of defending your position, so you fall back on your fixations.

Now, who is more the adult? Canuck_conservative; or you? The answer is obvious: It is canuck_conservative. He has not resorted to juvenile associations, and neither have I. But you sure as hell have.

Grow up, son.


75 posted on 11/29/2022 10:35:10 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; EEGator
Expanding NATO to the right countries expands the universe of places immune to aggression.

Is Ukraine one of the "right countries?" If we get more permanent Biden Gang corruption that could be a Faustian bargain.

76 posted on 11/29/2022 10:50:32 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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