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Sins of Information Warfare Do the sins of our opposition wash our own sins clean?
substack ^ | Nov 26 2022 | Robert W Malone MD, MS

Posted on 11/26/2022 8:33:36 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

At the moment, there is a very active discussion regarding the increasingly viral video “Died Suddenly”. Other commentators (for example “The Daily Skeptic” and Josh Guetzkow) have appropriately noted that the (generally well funded and produced) video includes segments which are misleading at best, falsely imply one or more cause-effect relationship between a sudden death event and vaccine administration, or otherwise employ cinematic license to stoke outrage. I have previously written regarding the business model of Stoking Rage for the up and coming podcaster, and in my opinion this strategy is fundamentally the same as the “fearporn” business model of corporate media - and in particular CNN.

For what its worth, I hold “our side” to higher standards than I have come to expect from corporate (broadcast and published) media. I reject the assertion that, on the battlefield of the current 21st century unrestricted media and information war which we are immersed in, it is acceptable to employ the tactics of our opponents. I have heard others in the medical resistance community advocate the schoolyard “logic” of “they are doing it to us, and so we have to do it to them”. I firmly reject this. Any “win” on the information war battlefield which is based on this type of rationale will be transitory and self defeating. It is not a win if we become one with the ethics of our opponents.

This is not just an information war, it is a battle over what is right and good versus what is fundamentally evil. Our opponents clearly believe that the ends justify the means, and that ethics - right and wrong- are completely situational and subject to the same logic widely accepted by the “Virtuals” caste; that there is no objective truth or reality, and reality and ethics are whatever one believes it to be. The ultimate derivative of the logic of “cultural relativity”. The logic from which springs the transsexual movement denialism of the genetic/biologic basis of gender.

As I have said so many times, in so many lectures, our opponents in this information war, this war on truth and integrity, have no ethical guardrails. Ethics are entirely situational in their world.

Repetition has merit in this case; our opponents appear to believe that the ends justify the means, and their cause is sufficiently compelling (in their minds) to justify any actions of censorship, defamation, mis- dis- or mal- information deployed to support their cause. In their minds, they are fighting for a higher cause (Globalism? Utilitarianism? Socialism/Marxism? Totalitarianism? Fascism?) which justifies jettisoning ethics and fundamentals of respect for integrity and the dignity of others.

Furthermore, this has become about tribalism and demonstration of tribal allegiance, and is not about me, or you, or medical freedom, or anything rational. This IS about mass formation, or mass psychosis, of the formation of crowds, or whatever term you wish to apply to the phenomenon so thoroughly described and documented by Freud, Le Bon, Arendt, and (yes) Desmet and their contemporaries.

I have consciously and intentionally chosen to cross-post the Daily Skeptic and Josh Guetzkow commentaries concerning “Died Suddenly” because I believe that they have made important points which should be discussed, but in so doing I have become a target for a small troll army which has swarmed those threads with accusations that I have a personal vendetta with Stew Peters, and which have attacked me as if I were the author of the cited essays.

Let me assure you now that I have no time or interest in further engagements with Stew Peters. He is irrelevant, as far as I am concerned. A modern carnival barker.

There is nothing in this “Died Suddenly” which represents new news, as far as I can tell. This seems to mostly be a sensationalized but well-produced video covering information which has been known for quite some time. Steve Kirsch did not endorse use of his likeness in this production, did not endorse, did not sponsor it, and neither he nor his organization in any way supports it.

For me, this is sort of “round two” on this general topic of “died suddenly” video clips. Long, long ago, in what seems like a galaxy far, far away, I was still on Twitter and GETTR was still coalescing. Which is to say between one and one and one half years ago. And I cross-posted another video regarding the “died suddenly” meme. In that case, the cross post involved a compilation of short video clips of athletes who had “died suddenly”. One of the clips in that montage was of a young male who most definitely died suddenly on the field while competing, but the tragic event took place prior to the vaccine deployment. In other words, it fit the broader “died suddenly” (presumably from acceptance of mRNA vaccine), but this was clearly a false association.

Because I once was one of the more prominent members of the Twitter and Linked In communities who were speaking out concerning the lack of ethics and safety in the EUA mRNA vaccine deployment and mandate policies, I was seen as an important influencer on those platforms. As a consequence of cross-posting a video montage which included a false association involving the tragic death of a young man, I received a rather aggressive and accusatory cease and desist letter from lawyers representing his family and estate. Basically, I was accused of exploiting his death (and the associated video of same) for political purposes, even though I did not produce the video in question (rather, I merely cross-posted it). Strong language was used in asserting that I was intentionally disrespecting the young man and his family.

Frankly, my reaction to the letter was a mix of horror and pity. Pity for the parents and family, who were probably being inadvertently forced to re-live a personal tragedy. Horror that I had in some way compounded or contributed to their pain.

What did I do? I immediately deleted the cross-post, and apologized to the family via their legal representative who had contacted me. I had acted in ignorance. I assumed that the video (which I believed came from a credible source) was accurate. But I had acted wrongly. Immediate deletion and apology, acknowledging the harm inadvertently done, was the closest I could get towards being consistent with my own personal commitment to fundamental integrity, respect for human dignity, and valuing my community (and community ethical standards).

This is directly analogous to one of the apparent breaches of accuracy in the current “Died Suddenly” video, wherein (apparently) an example of sudden death is being used which is demonstrably unrelated to SARS-CoV-2 (COVID) vaccination. It may or may not even be the same event.

My opinion is that these breaches of technical accuracy are not acceptable. For either side of the debate. It is often said, when debating an opponent (or an internet troll) that “you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts”. Furthermore, these types of “artistic license” distortions of truth cause both damage to the credibility of the arguments being made (which may other wise be valid), and can also cause psychologic pain.

Furthermore, these types of errors become weapons which will be deployed against us by our opponents in this unrestricted information war battlefield.

Allow me to provide a counter example from recent history. The Jeff Hays video production of “The Real Anthony Fauci,” a full-length feature documentary based on Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s runaway bestseller, was meticulously (internally) fact checked before being released. Anything stated during the many interviews which were used to generate the final product which could not be documented was left on the cutting room floor. It did not rely on either hyperbole or misrepresentation. And (unfortunately) it did not go viral. But it will withstand the test of time.

As stated previously, I could care less about a former bounty hunter who started a podcast to take down Alex Jones, and has seemingly sought to replace him by becoming a sort of well-financed (?huh, where did that come from?) second-tier shadow projection/mimic of a shock jock. Alex Jones, whatever his personal flaws, is the real deal. Just read his book, which analyzes the Klaus Schwab/King George III “Great Reset” agenda. Solid. Factual. Insightful.

The question which I do think we all need to grapple with is what is Stew Peters, and who does he represent? Based on what I have observed, he mostly represents himself. Are his ethics your ethics? Are they our ethics?

The collective answers to these questions by the medical freedom community will further define who we are. What are the ethical standards to which we will hold ourselves?

As far as I am concerned, that is the question that really matters.

The rest is merely a tale, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing, but full of passionate intensity.

Is this (below) who we are, and does it represent an example of the type of “ends justify the means” ethics that we wish to promote? If not, then I suggest that we all think long and hard about what “our” community standards are going to be, now and in the future.

The truth is like a lion. You do not have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.

Turkish bath house entrance bell, Istanbul

Furthermore, the truth will eventually come out. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, and maybe in some cases (JFK and RFK senior assassination?) it can be hidden for a long time. But it will come out.

To that end, the “truth” of the corporate media subterfuge concerning the “Hunter Biden Laptop” story may soon be revealed by Mr. Elon Musk. If so, then this is a shot across the bow of corporate media and the Administrative State. I suspect that Elon has the receipts on much of what has gone on. And he is in a position to enforce “new rules”. Maybe, maybe, there is hope for the cause of integrity. When the dust settles, which side do you want to be on?


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"""The truth is like a lion. You do not have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself."""

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Robert Malone makes a good case that we on the 'right' should be ethical in our reports on covid.

We can win the battle by not being like the 'left'.

1 posted on 11/26/2022 8:33:36 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Stew Peters always seemed like a used car salesman to me. My spidey sense was right.


2 posted on 11/26/2022 8:38:45 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
"Turkish bath house entrance bell, Istanbul"

Well, that line was kind of random.


3 posted on 11/26/2022 8:39:31 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

My main concern about the ‘Died Suddenly’ video regards the ‘light, yellowish clots’ being removed from dead people.

Are those clots simply ‘chicken fat clots’ that are commonly seen by embalmers?

Or are those clots rarely seen in the past by embalmers and only started appearing after people were covid vaxxed?

I have seen no reports by people who have expertise in dealing with dead people.

As Malone says: “Let the truth out and it will defend itself.”


4 posted on 11/26/2022 8:44:25 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
My main concern...

My main concern isn't on the dead.
My main concern is on the living
and what may become of them.

six foot clot (random keyword search)

It's odd how concerns differ.

5 posted on 11/26/2022 9:02:17 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I have seen no reports by people who have expertise in dealing with dead people.
Something like a coroner's report?

Here. Autopsy Histopathologic Cardiac Findings in 2 Adolescents Following the Second COVID-19 Vaccine Dose

There are others, I am simply not going to do the legwork for you. No offense.

6 posted on 11/26/2022 9:12:24 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

War is not a balancing act. To give your enemy a right to say what is right or wrong with your behavior is to give them another weapon. If you are fighting “fair” you have already lost the fight. Admit who is your enemy. Pick your targets and be willing to take the steps necessary to act against them with all means available. Or loose and talk about the great game you played while they trounce you into the ground.


7 posted on 11/26/2022 9:28:50 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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8 posted on 11/26/2022 9:49:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I started watching the hour plus video. Early on, a montage showing other government coverups (starting with JFK) included the moon landing. Completely unnecessary and discrediting to me. I decided to spend my hour doing something more productive.


9 posted on 11/26/2022 9:54:34 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes, Stew Peters has that not IT factor.


10 posted on 11/26/2022 10:04:38 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Bkmk


11 posted on 11/26/2022 10:58:19 AM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: Steamburg
War is not a balancing act. To give your enemy a right to say what is right or wrong with your behavior is to give them another weapon. If you are fighting “fair” you have already lost the fight. Admit who is your enemy. Pick your targets and be willing to take the steps necessary to act against them with all means available. Or loose and talk about the great game you played while they trounce you into the ground.

I hate the necessity, but I fall on this side of the discussion.

I think back to one of the films in WWII with the same discussion.   The conclusion was that if you take the ethical position that you would rather loose the battle than use NAZI tactics, you will be conquered by them.   "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky is proof that we must match or surpass them at their game.

Having said that, using false data that are easily proven to be lies is also self-defeating.

12 posted on 11/26/2022 11:03:10 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: philman_36; Presbyterian Reporter; null and void

From the link posted by philman_36: “There were no acute or organizing thrombi.” So, no clots found.

To Presbyterian Reporter:

With just a little study, you can figure out for yourself whether those are postmortem “chicken fat” clots or not. See:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4038551/posts?page=21#21

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4070163/posts?page=12#12

Here are photos of postmortem chicken fat clots:

https://slidetodoc.com/presentation_image_h/36d75b20fdff1e42d1c9f99b5db46e9c/image-45.jpg

https://o.quizlet.com/whghq7WkPq85C.ftFeg-0w.png

Compare to the clots shown in the Hirschman videos:

https://rumble.com/vtcsgw-worldwide-exclusive-embalmers-find-veins-and-arteries-filled-with-never-bef.html

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tkpbmrOIPAqP/

Fair warning: When you click on these videos, you generate ad revenue for these grifters. Also keep in mind that Dr. Jane Ruby is not an MD, despite her glamor shots in white coat with stethoscope.

See? Chicken fat clots. Not only that, as clots that form in living humans adhere to the vessel walls, how did he manage to just pull them out, all nice and smooth shiny like that? Hmm? How’d he do that? Clots all nice and smooth and that he describes as smooth, unlike antemortem clots. (If you did not already, you will have to click on the FR links I gave above to learn about the differences between antemortem and postmortem clots and that yes, chicken fat clots are rubbery!).

Chicken fat clots are found in the bodies of people who died from all sorts of causes, including drowning and fatal head injury.

To make it even easier:
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“A postmortem clot (E-Fig. 1-5) can be distinguished from an antemortem thrombus by its smooth shiny surface and lack of lamination or attachment to the endothelial surface of the vessel. However, depending on the erythrocyte sedimentation rate, a postmortem clot can organize within a vessel just as within a test tube, with erythrocytes at the bottom separated by a “buffy coat” of leukocytes from the serum at the top. The resemblance of clotted serum to avian adipose tissue has garnered the name of “chicken fat clot” for this postmortem clot that is often seen in horses because of their high erythrocyte sedimentation rate. Inflammation can accelerate the sedimentation rate. Anticoagulants or hereditary coagulopathies can delay or prevent postmortem clotting of blood.”

Link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/livor-mortis
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Also here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18243759/

https://cdn.goconqr.com/uploads/node/image/2396414/Thrombus_Vs._Coagulum__Postmortem_clot_.png

More here, including how Freeper null and void actually did his own research and checked with a funeral home in his area:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4092062/posts?page=32#32


13 posted on 11/26/2022 11:08:55 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: higgmeister; Steamburg

Got it. You don’t care about the truth, only about “winning”.

We now know what sort of people you are, and how much your words can be trusted. By your own admission, you have no compunction about spreading lies. How lovely.


14 posted on 11/26/2022 11:13:05 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
Got it. You don’t care about the truth, only about “winning”.

We now know what sort of people you are, and how much your words can be trusted. By your own admission, you have no compunction about spreading lies. How lovely.

Wrong!   I care about not winning and dying in the gulag.   I want the other guy to die instead of me, how ever it needs to happen.

The spy behind enemy lines is lying.   I held a Top Secret security clearance in the USAF and was very willing to lie if need be to protect national secrets.   For that matter I was willing to kill for my country but was never placed in that situation.

Stop trying to make this a moral judgment.   I know myself and you are deluding yourself.   "Discretion is the better part of valor."

15 posted on 11/26/2022 11:31:52 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

When Cory in Boon (A Christian) was hiding Jewish people above her fathers store she was consistant at lying to the Germans in order to protect them.


16 posted on 11/26/2022 11:35:08 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I’m not much of a fan of Malone, but appreciated it when he wrote about monkeypox *not* being a big deal and *not* connected to the Covid vaccines, and I said so here on FR. I was grateful he got most of the rabid vax doomers to stop their incessant posts about how “the vaxx” was causing the monkeypox outbreak, etc.

I’m glad he he wrote this, too, and it’s another mark in his favor. Reading between the lines, I wonder if he’s starting to be a wee bit alarmed at the monster he’s helped create. When he first started writing about “mass psychosis formation” and diagnosing only the the run-and-hide-and-mask-up pro-vaccine fanatics, all I could think was “Oh, the irony!” He simply didn’t seem to recognize the rabid vax doomers were just as crazy.

He seems to be embarrassed by Stew Peters and grifters of his ilk. Perhaps in time, he’ll come round to seeing through Steve Kirsch. One can always hope.

Thank you for posting this.

PS: I’m not vaccinated myself and have always been staunchly against mandates. I’ve always thought the easily-disproven nutty stuff spouted by the vax doomers hurt the anti-mandate cause. There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the vaccines. We don’t need lies and nutty conspiracy theories.


17 posted on 11/26/2022 11:37:44 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: higgmeister

Oh my. It’s one thing to lie to protect national secrets that could jeopardize the security of our nation, our military, or our citizens. I once lied to protect a couple of sweet little old ladies from drugged-up soldiers who were running around shooting innocent civilians, including children in wheelchairs, just for the fun of it. That happened during somebody else’s civil war in another country.

When discussing health and science, I can see no moral justification for lying. Why lie? Why not let the facts stand?

You seem to be afraid of being put in a gulag. Okay. How does lying about vaccines keep you out of these supposed gulags?

I’ve no problem with discretion. You seem quick to accuse me of being deluded. Perhaps, deep down, your inner wisdom is trying to tell you something. I wish you a pleasant day, sir, and thank you for your service to our country.


18 posted on 11/26/2022 11:49:49 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Information Warfare sounds so much like InfoWars.


19 posted on 11/26/2022 11:53:26 AM PST by euram
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Anytime government othodoxy is challenged, expect government-trained monkeys in media and academia to appear and scream like... monkeys.


20 posted on 11/26/2022 2:47:45 PM PST by sergeantdave
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