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Italy PM: It 'changes very little' if Poland blast was not due to Russia
Reuters ^ | 11/16/22 | Reuters

Posted on 11/16/2022 4:56:32 AM PST by JonPreston

Italy believes it does not make much difference if the missile that caused a deadly explosion in Poland was not Russian

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blast; italy; poland

1 posted on 11/16/2022 4:56:32 AM PST by JonPreston
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2 posted on 11/16/2022 4:58:41 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JonPreston

I thought we were treaty bound to help protect NATO members like Poland from countries like Ukraine who bomb them?


3 posted on 11/16/2022 5:00:47 AM PST by algore
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4 posted on 11/16/2022 5:01:55 AM PST by cranked
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To: algore
I thought we were treaty bound to help protect NATO members like Poland from countries like Ukraine who bomb them?

Exactly. Ukrainian anti-aircraft missiles land it Poland. What is NATO going to do to protect Poland from Ukraine?

5 posted on 11/16/2022 5:19:00 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: JonPreston

“Italy believes it does not make much difference if the missile that caused a deadly explosion in Poland was not Russian, because Moscow is still to blame for attacking infrastructure in Ukraine, Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said on Wednesday.”
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WOW, that comment is downright embarrassing. Guess she doesn’t know that her owners (that would be us) “attack infrastructure” in every military conflict we initiate...:-(


6 posted on 11/16/2022 5:41:36 AM PST by Cathi
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To: algore

I thought we were treaty bound to help protect NATO members like Poland from countries like Ukraine who bomb them?

My my....funny thing about facts....


7 posted on 11/16/2022 5:42:12 AM PST by heshtesh
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To: All

Zelensky’s normally stellar PR campaign is slipping. Here is another failed attempt.

https://t.me/i20028843 (video at site)

How Ukraine made “happiness rallies” in Kherson

In a video shot by Agence France-Presse, an allegedly enthusiastic Kherson resident declares that there is no light, water, or mobile connection in the city, but he is very happy that he has been freed from the Russians [he’s speaking English in the video]

The person was identified as Pondin Evgeny Nikolaevich, who lives in Kiev. Evgeny Nikolaevich is the commander of a company of the National Guard (unit 3030). Probably arrived in Kherson to carry out repressions. Well, at the same time he filmed some videos for Western journalists


8 posted on 11/16/2022 6:04:45 AM PST by Cathi
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To: algore

Poland, NATO Agree Deadly Polish Border ‘Russian Attack’ Was Errant Ukrainian Missile

> NOV 16
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/poland-nato-agree-deadly-poland-border-russian-attack-was-errant-ukrainian-missile

A mere less than 24 hours ago, before the dust had settled from the explosion and before investigators could come to any definitive conclusions after the deadly incident on the Polish border village of Przewodów, the Western public was already being harangued and forewarned to stay away from ‘conspiracy theories’ as the early mainstream headlines - pushed especially based on an anonymous US official in an Associated Press report - were fast out the gate with “Russian missiles hit Poland, killing two”.

“Article 5” - the NATO collective defense treaty which many had long worried would be the first invoked act leading to WWIII, began trending on Twitter, as Western officials issued confident statements of ‘solidarity’. Almost immediately and without evidence, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded “action” from the West over the supposed brazen aggression against a NATO member. “Hitting NATO territory with missiles… This is a Russian missile attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed,” Zelensky said his Tuesday night video address.
[more at link]


9 posted on 11/16/2022 6:06:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JonPreston
Thanks to those wonderful people who gave us Il Duce we now must deal with another Italia Ill Douchebag

Anybody remember why Italia is shaped like a boot instead of a sneaker.

10 posted on 11/16/2022 6:09:11 AM PST by hflynn
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To: hflynn

Yeah now the leftists on free Republic will attack the truly conservative Prime Minister of Italy. You people are wackos and idiots.

Obviously what she said makes perfect sense if the damage in Poland was collateral damage caused by defending yourself against a Russian invasion which has no place in Europe.

You all act like some kind of spoiled hippies from the 1960s.

Turn against the Italian Prime Minister who is protecting Italy from Muslim migrants? You’re out of your mind’s. Your hatred of Ukraine would literally destroy the world and the United States place in the world.

You’ve been poisoned by stupid childish isolationist leftist rhetoric from kook libertarians.


11 posted on 11/16/2022 6:15:35 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Travis McGee

Ukrainian Telegram Channel
https://t.me/s/legitimniy/

legitimate
#Rumors
Our source reports that Zelensky held a conference call on the energy case.

Now we have managed to stabilize and “power up” the network, but there is a high risk that the system will begin to fail and “burn”, as the Office of the President was in a hurry to restore the networks in a revealing way, without the necessary parts and stabilization equipment.

According to the source, yesterday about 50% of the energy system was disabled, which indirectly confirms our message that this is a warning and a hint to the Office of the President to hurry to fulfill the backstage agreements that Kherson received.

The energy crisis threatens the country’s budget with big “minuses”, which will be visible in a couple of months.

legitimate
#Layout The
Western press writes that US President Biden informed NATO and the G7 that the explosion in Poland was caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile.

For Ukraine, this is a strong image blow within the Polish society. Of course, now EU officials will begin to shift the focus and blame the Russian Federation for this event, so as not to lose public support.

The problem is what we have been writing about for a long time. The quality of Ukrainian air defense missiles is very poor and they sometimes “go astray”, often falling on residential buildings (the Office of the President passed this off as shelling the Russian Federation with S-300 missiles). This time they just “lost their way” and flew to Poland.

Colleagues reviewed many times on the topic of the poor quality of air defense missiles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, indicating that this would lead to larger-scale tragedies, but Bankovaya did not solve the problem in any way, but only lied to her people, blaming the Russians for the tragedies.

Telegram
legitimate
#Rumors
Kamikaze drones flew in the Dnieper.
The work of air defense was heard, there was even a hit (although the explosion of an air defense missile, many people confuse it with a hit, not realizing that a missile even missing a target should eventually explode in the air so as not to fall on ...

legitimate
forwarded from
Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President demanded that the SBU take control of the publication of arrivals and missile strikes on critical infrastructure in telegrams. At Bankovaya, they want to completely stop the information so that later there will be no disagreements with the number of missiles shot down and reaching the targets. Officials were also instructed to work with a single manual, otherwise 15 missiles hit 30 targets, which raises many questions on social networks about the effectiveness of our air defense.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/15149
Telegram
Resident
More than 30 infrastructure facilities of Ukraine were damaged as a result of yesterday’s rocket attack. This was stated by the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Monastyrsky.

Yesterday, the deputy head of the Presidential Office, Kirill Timoshenko, announced that Russian troops fired more than 90 missiles at Ukraine, and our air defense…

legitimate
#Rumors
Our source reports that the Office of the President immediately knew that the two missiles that fell in Poland were Ukrainian air defense, but they deliberately sent a message that these were Russian missiles in the hope that Western partners would support this legend.

The source adds that Zelensky, in a conversation with Polish President Duda, could not convince the latter to falsify the rocket fragments.

Duda called Zelensky to warn that they would tell the truth and recognize the missiles as Ukrainian, but they would present it as gently as possible with an accent and accusations of Russia.

Bankova perceived this as a “drain” of partners.


12 posted on 11/16/2022 6:28:42 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Williams
WOW! You must have ingested a whole container of Metamucil to let all that $hit out in one post.

I particularly enjoyed your 1960's hippie throwback reference but my favorite part was your concern about Muslim migrants in Italy since I have a similar concern about M migrants in America.

Next time measure your Metamucil dosage using the little plastic spoon in the container you looney tune.

13 posted on 11/16/2022 7:19:36 AM PST by hflynn
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To: hflynn

Listen moron the Italian Prime Minister is a conservative superstar and it just shows how crazy some of you are that you would try to turn against her over the issue of Ukraine.

And yeah I’m concerned about Muslim migrants and illegal migrants in America as well as in Italy. So what’s your problem?


14 posted on 11/16/2022 8:40:59 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

I don’t have a problem other then a Metamucil A$$hole telling me I have to listen to the $hit river posts he keeps sending me.
I can’t hear your post moron, they don’t come with a soundtrack.


15 posted on 11/16/2022 9:18:51 AM PST by hflynn
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To: hflynn

I just wonder do you have a mental problem posting things like that? Come and meet me and let’s put my metamucil against whatever crap you’re taking.

I notice the Russia loving wack jobs have progressed from claiming people who support American national security are paid Soros agents,
and now you’ve got this kookie script that anyone supporting a strong American foreign policy is old and feeble and doesn’t know how to use the Internet.

Keep dreaming.


16 posted on 11/16/2022 10:22:21 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
Are you asking me out on a date Williams?

Sorry. Ask some other guy out , my arse is exit only.

PS. Cut back on the Metamucil. I don't need anymore of your $hit.

17 posted on 11/16/2022 10:43:19 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Travis McGee

Wait. That can’t be. The FR DeepState Ukraine brigade had Article 5 war declared, with invasion commencing immediately. Those pointing to a possible S-300 as a logical answer were told to it was too early to speculate but had Russia shooting S-300 from Belarus’s territory. Don’t matter that it was out of range. Too early to speculate while they cheered the idea of US troops going into the area.

I cannot understand the thinking on this topic anymore. People appear to want a new global war with extra-nukes. Can you explain WTF these people are thinking. Are they all paid trolls/bots? I think not.


18 posted on 11/16/2022 10:46:23 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: hflynn

made you look.


19 posted on 11/16/2022 11:04:16 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: wgmalabama

No one said any such thing.


20 posted on 11/16/2022 11:04:43 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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