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Are the Unvaccinated Still a Danger to the Rest of Us?
Los Angeles Times ^ | NOV. 3, 2022 | Melissa Healy

Posted on 11/03/2022 5:29:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway

For almost two years, COVID-19 vaccine holdouts have been the objects of earnest pleading and financial inducements, of social-media shaming and truth campaigns. They’ve missed weddings, birthday celebrations and recitals, and even forfeited high-stakes athletic competitions. Until last month, they were barred from entering the United States and more than 100 other countries.

Now the unvaccinated are suddenly back in the mix. They’re dining in restaurants, rocking out at music festivals and filling the stands at sporting venues. They mingle freely in places where they used to be shunned for fear they’d seed superspreader events.

It’s as if they’re no longer hazardous to the rest of us. Or are they?

“Clearly, the unvaccinated are a threat to themselves,” said Dr. Jeffrey Shaman, an infectious disease specialist at Columbia University. As recently as August, their risk of dying of COVID-19 was six times higher than for people who were fully vaccinated and eight times higher than for people who were vaccinated and boosted, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But, Shaman acknowledged, “the danger to the rest of us is a more debatable issue.”

The Path From Pandemic

This is the third in an occasional series of stories about the transition out of the COVID-19 pandemic and how life in the U.S. will be changed in its wake.

When public officials imposed vaccine mandates, the unvaccinated certainly appeared to pose demonstrable dangers to their communities.

State and local leaders sought not only to suppress spread of the virus, but also to prevent their healthcare systems from being overwhelmed, degrading care for all. The unvaccinated made those goals harder to achieve since they were more likely to become infected and, when they did, to require hospitalization.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: covid; covidvaccines; danger; melissahealy; ohnoes; unvaccinated; vaccine; wereallgonnadie
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1 posted on 11/03/2022 5:29:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Oh dear lord, here we go again.


2 posted on 11/03/2022 5:30:54 PM PDT by blackdog (The head, hands, and heart, serve even further than the purse. )
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To: blackdog

I guess the my body my choice only applies to infanticide.


3 posted on 11/03/2022 5:32:49 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: nickcarraway
When public officials imposed vaccine mandates, the unvaccinated certainly appeared to pose demonstrable dangers to their communities.

The public officials created the myth that the unvaccinated posed dangers to their communities. There was never an iota of science to back up the contention, and there still isn't.

The officials are liars and those who believed them are suckers.

4 posted on 11/03/2022 5:32:59 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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To: nickcarraway

I hope those peddling the clot shots get every disease mentioned in the Revelation to John.


5 posted on 11/03/2022 5:33:19 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: nickcarraway

Bull S^^T!


6 posted on 11/03/2022 5:33:33 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: nickcarraway

I like the fact that all the inoculated people are mysteriously dying.
Nobody misses a Democrat.
Bell won’t toll for them.


7 posted on 11/03/2022 5:33:59 PM PDT by rellic
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To: rellic

Over five billion people have had a COVID vaccine.


8 posted on 11/03/2022 5:36:25 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: nickcarraway

Wrong question.

Correct question: “Are the mRNA injections still a threat to those who receive them?”


9 posted on 11/03/2022 5:36:53 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Rurudyne

John ate some questionable mushrooms


10 posted on 11/03/2022 5:37:35 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: nickcarraway
Dr. Jeffrey Shaman

You just can't make this stuff up.

11 posted on 11/03/2022 5:37:47 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes- yes i am. So all you vaccinated folks stay the ef away from me!!!


12 posted on 11/03/2022 5:38:13 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: nickcarraway

Our healthiness is a threat to the unhealthy vaxed.


13 posted on 11/03/2022 5:38:40 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas is available on Barnes and Noble )
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To: nickcarraway

Still? They NEVER were.


14 posted on 11/03/2022 5:39:30 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: dead

There are plenty of mRNA injection fanatics and mask fanatics on this forum.

Never forget them, never give them any credibility.

They are lying about everything, including their supposed medical credentials.


15 posted on 11/03/2022 5:39:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Fuzz

“Over five billion people have had a COVID vaccine.”

That is an insane number of people who have been unnecessarily poisoned. I truly wonder how effective the de-populationist were in this attack.


16 posted on 11/03/2022 5:40:20 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984
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To: nickcarraway

It is apparent the vaccinated are the danger to the rest of us.


17 posted on 11/03/2022 5:40:46 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: No name given

This week John’s Hopkins published a study that three time vaccinated adults are more likely to suffer severe covid than those unvaccinated.


18 posted on 11/03/2022 5:42:12 PM PDT by blackdog (The head, hands, and heart, serve even further than the purse. )
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To: WinstonSmith1984

You could assume that if the vaccine were meant to kill people, you’d see more deaths considering the 5 billion people vaccinated.


19 posted on 11/03/2022 5:42:43 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

Or he was given a vision.

I’ve never has any questionable mushrooms, or the equivalent (I’m boring), and I’ve had exactly one Thus says the Lord experience, in relation to abortion, and it was a statement of judgment (”Thus says the Lord: shall a bloody nation not recieve blood from the Lord?”). The vision-like dream that immediately preceded it is clear to this day.


20 posted on 11/03/2022 5:43:58 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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