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To: Timber Rattler

Territory taken can be re-taken, Ukrainian cannon fodder cannot be resurrected....and the US and NATO are running out military equipment to send to replace that which is being steadily destroyed.


2 posted on 10/05/2022 4:56:49 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

It’s a war of attrition.


3 posted on 10/05/2022 5:00:25 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: cranked

Maneuver Warfare: Great dangers rise up when you least expect them.

> by William Schryver / Oct 4, 2022
John Boyd was one of the most brilliant and celebrated modern military theorists, and his concepts were extremely influential among many in the post-Vietnam officer cadre of the United States Marine Corps.

In particular, the highly regarded USMC General Paul K. Van Riper became a zealous disciple of Boyd’s conceptions of war. I have previously written of Van Riper’s legendary exploits, and most recently his observations of the ongoing war in Ukraine.

[Please read it all at the link. This is by far the best analysis of what’s currently going on in Ukraine, IMHO.]

https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/maneuver-warfare


5 posted on 10/05/2022 5:03:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cranked

“US and NATO are running out military equipment to send”

Have we given them F-35s? Abrams tanks? Apache helicopters? Tomahawk missiles?

We have defeated Russia so far with our 30 year old cast-offs. Any Russian escalation can easily be matched by giving Ukraine some of the good stuff.


7 posted on 10/05/2022 5:07:17 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: cranked

All of that is true.

What’s also true is Russia has the perfect domestic storm of (historically) high abortion rates and low birth rates PLUS a massive exodus of the intelligentsia before February PLUS another exodus of the rich after war broke out PLUS exempted male school-leavers and students getting out PLUS approaching 60,000 dead PLUS maybe over 100,000 injured.

And, the ‘Stans that usually front up the cannon fodder are putting the brakes on.

Basically, Putin’s reliant on a dwindling supply of Gomer Pyles, bumpkins and geriatrics to fight a modern war.

Even Simonyan reckons it’ll take at leas two months before these conscripts are trained and equipped well enough to hit Ukraine... in winter.

Is Grandad going to need a thick jumper? An enormous stockpile of winter soldiering clothing just went AWOL. Eight months ago, Russians were getting frostbite and trench foot and that was before the conflict had even properly taken off.

Territory taken can be retaken, Ukrainian cannon fodder cannot be resurrected, and before 2023 is out Russia will be sending St Petersburg’s 12 year olds into battle to spare the blushes of the floundering elite.

Still, Russia will live on - as a “dark ages” footnote in the histories of new Islamic, Indian and Chinese affiliated territories.


8 posted on 10/05/2022 5:09:21 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: cranked

It is hard to know if someone (or a bot) says something about the Ukraine war from a desire to create political influence or because they simply don’t know the tiny details. Yes, huge amounts of equipment and ammunition are being expended. Will that expenditure hurt NATO’s and American reediness? No. (See the link for a well thought-out and detailed explanation.) But even if the US gave Ukraine every, say, anti-tank missile we have, America has multiple platforms with which to destroy tanks. Ukraine doesn’t. After watching the video at the link someone responded that he didn’t see HIMARS listed. Again, we have multiple platforms that can do the job, but I found a military trade publication listing an RFQ, Request for Quote, for 500 new HIMARS systems. As for ammo, it’s not in the news for obvious reasons, but General Dynamics powder facility which supplies the powder for bullets, bombs and missiles has spammed all of our local mailboxes with requests that we come work there. I no longer have contacts inside, but I do recognize the visible signs that they have expanded and gone to three shifts. We aren’t going to run short of anything anytime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CmXz8Qd9yw&t=415s


23 posted on 10/05/2022 5:23:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: cranked

Territory taken can be re-taken (True-but not if you have no air power, no equipment, no logistics, and no manpower)

Ukrainian cannon fodder cannot be resurrected (Neither can Russian cannon fodder, probably the Russians will run out first)

and the US and NATO are running out military equipment to send to replace that which is being steadily destroyed. (LOL, the Americans have more aircraft in ready storage than the Russians have that can fly today. The allied countries have probably thousands of what we consider obsolete pieces, better than the Russians have now, of equipment and bombs to use. I think the assumption that the US and allies will run out of old equipment is a mistake. I have no doubt the Russians are already in deep equipment problems)

This war is stupid. It’s only getting people killed over oil, minerals, and money for the rich. Yes, I see that on both sides.


24 posted on 10/05/2022 5:26:28 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: cranked

Seems as though the Russia is running out of 60 year old tanks even faster, though.


45 posted on 10/05/2022 5:46:33 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: cranked

54 posted on 10/05/2022 5:54:11 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

What about Russian cannon fodder? It’s not as if Russia has been winning lately. Sure, I know some say it is ‘MSM propaganda’ but the fact is that Russia is getting pounded and pushed back. Which means that they must be losing a lot of men.

That war has been an absolute debacle for Putin. The Russian military machine is forever smeared as ineffective. Sure, many suspected it wasn’t as good as claimed, but now it is clear to all that it was even worse than expected.


55 posted on 10/05/2022 5:54:13 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: cranked

🤣🤣🤣🤣 ok Ivan


65 posted on 10/05/2022 6:01:48 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: cranked

You have lost

The Russian forces in Ukraine have lost combat effectiveness

Death is now their lot as they are continuously enveloped


71 posted on 10/05/2022 6:08:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: cranked

Still trying to troll?
How much do they pay you?


84 posted on 10/05/2022 6:33:30 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: cranked
Untrained/poorly trained troops can occasionally do a decent job of defending a fixed position if their flanks are secure, they have some better trained units supporting them, their lines are continuous and dense, and they have good supporting arms etc.. So that is a possible use for these recently mobilized troops.

But if we're talking any kind of mobile/mechanized war, they're useless defensively. And offensively, they're just useless period unless employed in true human wave/overwhelming numbers, and this isn't nearly enough for that.

So that is the problem the Russians face. The total length of the front - especially when you consider Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts - is far too long to have the kind of dense, continuous front those troops may be able to defend successfully. There were literally millions if troops covering the same length frontages in WW2.

So maybe sticking them in trenchlines in Donbass can work, or defending the Crimean peninsula proper. But otherwise, they'll be speed bumps, and that's about it.

93 posted on 10/05/2022 7:09:27 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: cranked

Uh Huh. Are you getting this information from the captured Russian soldiers?


154 posted on 10/05/2022 2:24:55 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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