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To: Cronos

Sorry dude, I think you need to revisit history.
All of the g7, needless to say excluding Marshall’s son Japan have a common thread starting in Christendom. This as you point out included Belgium, the Dutch, Italians and others. These are the people who rode against the Muslims for the “Crusades”.

It’s this effort that we have to thank the Muslims for as it was the greatest stimulus to Christian philosophers who thunk up the Magna Carta.
Once the people learned they had rights and could own, buy and sell property, ideas and the birth of patent law came after it. This aided the explosive expansion of maths, sciences, engineering as people raced to build a better mousetrap.
Yes, along the way came Luther, who birthed the individual identies for John Wayne and the likes of frank Sinatra who did it their way.

All of this became the building blocks for the industrial revolution which is what put the great into Great Britain, the mother of Australia, Canada and the United States.
Nobody else on the planet thunk up such a “white” system replete with infrastructure: not the Chinese, not the Russians, not the Indians, not the Africans nor the world of Islam.
Islam still lives where Mohammed left of, in the seventh century. Worst part is their third world is the voice of the UN who is hardly up to solving today’s problems. In terms of technological problems, we are the best choice to solve the problems we’ve created. Tribalism just does not cut it.

With time, Britain matured and the hub became America

None of this would have happened in the absence of Christians in Britain.

As a result I think you and others understate the value of Great Britain and the power of Christianity.

The knowledge of this evolution is what’s missing in today’s world of education.


47 posted on 09/26/2022 2:10:26 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: himno hero
I didn't dispute that the majority were Christian -- as I said The conveniences were not solely British. The Catholic French and Belgians and italians, the Calvinist Dutch and the Lutheran Germans also had key roles to play. as a response to your rooted in the wasps Magna Carta and patent laws

The Magna Carta was a creation of an oligarchy from an autocracy. This was not exclusive to the Anglo-Saxons - you had similar movements among the Icelanders (as you point out) but also earlier in northern India and in Greece.

Muslims didn't have any effect on the creation of the Magna Carta - this was the result of a weak king (King John).

All of this became the building blocks for the industrial revolution which is what put the great into Great Britain, the mother of Australia, Canada and the United States. -- it's called "Great Britain" as it's the largest island in the British isles

the UK only came to first place in the mid 1700s after the Seven years war. Prior to that, the English were a middling power - only promoted to first level power due to the Stuarts coming to power --> remember that England-Scotland became basically a Dutch colony for a few years after 1688. The British became the premier power after the French imploded due to the amount they spent sponsoring the American revolutionaries

Nobody else on the planet thunk up such a “white” system replete with infrastructure: not the Chinese, not the Russians, not the Indians, not the Africans nor the world of Islam. -- Actually the Han dynasty, Tang dynasty and Song Dynasty China did have that entire system

So too did the Harappan civilization and later the Gupta empire.

48 posted on 09/26/2022 2:19:48 AM PDT by Cronos
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