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Russia's sham referendums in Ukraine: What does it hope to achieve?
DW ^ | 9/21/2022 | Roman Goncharenko

Posted on 09/22/2022 11:21:30 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Russia had already declared its intent in spring, and is now going ahead with plans to annex the territories it has occupied in the south and east of Ukraine on a fast-track basis. Simultaneous votes in the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions have been scheduled from September 23 to September 27. In a speech on Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested that Moscow would recognize the results.

Just as it did with the Crimean annexation in 2014, Russia is making a point of appearing not to be involved. It was local Ukrainian politicians supported by the Russian military who announced the so-called "referendums." As in the case of Crimea eight years ago, the vote has been brought forward from a previously suggested date — that of November 4. Regional referendums are banned in Ukraine. Like in Crimea, there will be no independent election monitoring.

Yes' or 'no'

However, that is as far as the similarities go — there are far more differences.

Russian media are reporting that there will be regional differences. In Donetsk and Luhansk, the ballot will pose a single question, to be answered with a "yes" or a "no," on whether to join the Russian Federation.

In Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, three questions will be asked but only one "yes" or "no" answer will be possible: "Are you for secession from Ukraine, establishing an independent country and joining the Russian Federation?"

Voting will also take place in Russia, where hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have fled since 2014. The majority of Ukrainian refugees, however — several million — have fled to regions controlled by Kyiv and abroad.

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To: Dr. Franklin

Would the US and NATO accepted a vote to remain in Belgrade or Serbia and just leave instead of bogusly creating Kosovo?


21 posted on 09/22/2022 11:56:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Galloway. What a joke.


22 posted on 09/22/2022 11:57:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Silver78

Putinista logic:

Putin steals election = good
Biden steals election = bad


23 posted on 09/22/2022 11:58:12 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

The SHAM has been revealed as utter BS, CIA/MI6 ORYX propaganda peddler.

Start at 16:20.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Bo1uYpt98

Hypocrites, one and all.
Propaganda peddlers indeed exposed.


24 posted on 09/22/2022 11:58:43 AM PDT by cranked
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To: rrrod

WMD’s in Iraq
No fore warning of the concept of planes being used as missiles
No advanced warning of Pearl Harbour
Gulf of Tonkin
2020 election

Yes the Russians can’t be trusted but we can.


25 posted on 09/22/2022 12:00:14 PM PDT by Silver78
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To: Timber Rattler

Again, still waiting for you to disprove Gallaway in anything - ANYTHING- he said concerning Ukraine and the his utter destruction of the prevailing pro-Ukrainian propaganda fomented by you pro-Ukrainian propaganda peddlers.

Waiting.

Waiting.

Waiting.


26 posted on 09/22/2022 12:00:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

Or maybe its just stealing elections = bad...that thought ever cross your barren mind?


27 posted on 09/22/2022 12:01:06 PM PDT by Silver78
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To: cranked
No thanks.


28 posted on 09/22/2022 12:01:10 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: central_va

“The whole thing is a money laundering scheme to enrich administration and congressional members through third party kick backs”.

Totally analogous to the Open Border for the Mexican Cartels. 10% of $1,000,000,000 per month is a lot of palm greasing for both the Biden Crime Family as well as the Congress critters


29 posted on 09/22/2022 12:01:54 PM PDT by texican01
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To: central_va

“The whole thing is a money laundering scheme to enrich administration and congressional members through third party kick backs”.

Totally analogous to the Open Border for the Mexican Cartels. 10% of $1,000,000,000 per month is a lot of palm greasing for both the Biden Crime Family as well as the Congress critters


30 posted on 09/22/2022 12:02:05 PM PDT by texican01
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To: marcusmaximus

Waiting.

Waiting.

Waiting.

Propaganda peddler and CIA/MI6 ORYX peddling troll.


31 posted on 09/22/2022 12:02:53 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueVccOhQ7C8&t=2s

Col. Doug Macgregor - Ukraine Russia Latest


32 posted on 09/22/2022 12:05:41 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Silver78
Next week after the "referendum" you'll be pulling a Linda Ingraham and telling Ukraine that it's time to "turn the page."


33 posted on 09/22/2022 12:06:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Cathi; cranked; All
Check out Redacted, with Clayton Morris

Putin has a DEVASTATING message for NATO and he's not bluffing | Redacted with Clayton Morris

34 posted on 09/22/2022 12:10:57 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Silver78

“Or maybe its just stealing elections = bad”

Then why did you object when someone pointed out that Russia stealing an election is bad?


35 posted on 09/22/2022 12:11:37 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: marcusmaximus

If I were able to tell Ukraine anything it would be to stop being a corrupt cesspool for the western elite to launder money and get kushy jobs for their degenerate offspring...but you just keep taking your marching orders from the MSM believing its a bastion of democracy.


36 posted on 09/22/2022 12:12:22 PM PDT by Silver78
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To: Boogieman

I didn’t - read my post again and try not to put words in my mouth.


37 posted on 09/22/2022 12:12:59 PM PDT by Silver78
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To: cranked
Putinistas love them stolen elections.


38 posted on 09/22/2022 12:15:13 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Silver78
You support election stealing.


39 posted on 09/22/2022 12:17:17 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

And the CIA/MI6 love spreading endless propaganda via propaganda peddlers like you and others within FR.

You all are living proof that propaganda peddling is big business.


40 posted on 09/22/2022 12:19:04 PM PDT by cranked
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