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Russian Troops Now to Get Tough Punishment If They Surrender in Ukraine
1945 ^ | 9/20/2022 | Jack Buckby

Posted on 09/20/2022 12:49:44 PM PDT by tlozo

Russia Passes New Law To Prevent Disheartened Troops from Abandoning Duty in Ukraine – As Russia continues to face heavy troop, weapon, and territory losses in Ukraine, the nation’s parliament approved new legislation on Tuesday designed to prevent more troops from abandoning their duty and the battlefield.

The new legislation establishes stricter rules for soldiers and harsher punishments for those who surrender or desert the battlefield in Ukraine. Under the new law, abandoning duty during “mobilization, martial law, or wartime” would be considered an aggravating factor and result in worse punishment.

It is the first time that this language has appeared in Russia’s legal code, which already had punishments in place for soldiers deserting the battlefield, and comes as more soldiers express concerns about the way the war has been conducted by the Kremlin and military officials.

What Are the Punishments?

Under the law, soldiers face prison sentences of up to 10 years for voluntarily surrendering and 15 years for looting. The new language incorporated into existing law means that these offenses, when committed during martial law, mobilization, or wartime, are more likely to result in maximum prison sentences.

Conscientious objectors who refuse to fight when required will face prison sentences of up to three years during wartime.

Human rights attorney Pavel Chikov reported on the draft Duma bill on his Telegram account, describing how the new language has never before been seen in the Russian Criminal Code.

Chikov confirmed that the second reading of the bill was scheduled for Tuesday, September 20 and that it would likely be approved by the Federation Council and signed by President Vladimir Putin before the day’s end. In an update, he confirmed that the legislation was “unanimously” approved in the second and third readings.

The human rights lawyer also said that a hotline for military personnel is currently in operation and encouraged soldiers to contact his team of military lawyers for assistance.

Selective Enforcement in Ukraine?

Russian law already prohibits soldiers from looting, but few, if any, appear to have been prosecuted following accusations of looting private homes and farms in Ukraine.

In April, reports revealed how Russian soldiers had engaged in widespread and “systematic” looting. The Guardian revealed how evidence gathered from across occupied Ukrainian territory showed that looting had not only been conducted by a “few wayward soldiers,” but that it was a “systematic part of Russian military behavior, across multiple towns and villages.”

In May, Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov said during a national television address that Russian soldiers had looted priceless artifacts from a museum in the city.

According to a report by the New York Times, the director of Melitopol’s Museum of Local History had hidden the artifacts in the cellar, but the Russians could still steal at least 198 gold items, as well as silver coins, medals, and rare weapons.


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To: tlozo

To escape a looting charge, looting Orc must turn over the significant part of the loot to his commanding officer.

If the troop joined Wager Group from a prison, they were told to sever and then their record would be cleaned up. Desert, surrender, flee the front and “we will kill you”.


61 posted on 09/20/2022 2:23:56 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Red Badger

That’s what the Chechens behind the lines are for. No change.


62 posted on 09/20/2022 2:27:06 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: JonPreston

“Hush 🤫 you feckless Neocon. No war for Piggies 🐷”

I’m still waiting on your reply to my challenge, as per:


Thread: “UKraine’s counter-offensive recaptures first village in Luhansk”

9/20/2022, 1:20:22 PM · 80 of 85

ought-six to JonPreston

You said: “Your feckless support of any and all wars is all the proof one needs see you’re a Neocon. See how evidence works?”

My challenge: “Please link to my comments that state I fecklessly support all wars. Come on, Sparky: You made the accusation, back it up; or provide a public retraction here on this thread.”

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I’m going to run you to ground, Sparky. So; man up, or shut up.


63 posted on 09/20/2022 2:27:55 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Hush 🤫 Neocon swine


64 posted on 09/20/2022 2:28:57 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

“Hush 🤫 Neocon swine.”

Coward. There is nothing lower, or more despicable, than a coward. And you wear the mantle proudly.


65 posted on 09/20/2022 2:36:11 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

🐷 didn’t I tell her you to shut up?


66 posted on 09/20/2022 2:40:15 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: tlozo

The floggings will continue until morale improves.


67 posted on 09/20/2022 2:43:13 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: JonPreston

Bold talk from a coward.


68 posted on 09/20/2022 3:02:35 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“Shut up,” she explained. 😂


69 posted on 09/20/2022 3:08:30 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: Kazan
Putin and his Generals have committed only a small fraction of their military forces to the conflict.

A small fraction of units that exist mainly on paper. There's no strategic sense to what you are saying. This was supposed to be a quick victory with a puppet regime installed in Kiev leaving a rump Ukraine losing of all of the Luhansk, Donetsk and Kharkov oblasts and probably the whole Black Sea coast up to and including Transnistria and maybe even Moldova. Now Russia is struggling to hold onto what it now holds in Luhansk, Donetsk and Kherson. Putin seems to think declaring these territories parts of Russia will frighten everyone off. It won't. You should remember the US has 10 nuke warheads for every Russian city of 50k inhabitants or more, with a few hundred left over for China.

70 posted on 09/20/2022 3:10:03 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: tlozo
Before Kharkiv, according to Russia, the US and NATO are fighting to the last Ukranian.

After Kharkiv, under new Rusisan law, the Russian government is fighting to the last Russian soldier.

It will be interesting to watch the pro-Russian side spins this. Laws last longer than soundbites.

71 posted on 09/20/2022 3:12:58 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Widget Jr

They won’t be able to spin it intellectually… anyone bringing it to their attention will be mindlessly accused of aligning with Soros, Biden and the “globohomos.”


72 posted on 09/20/2022 3:14:58 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: Travis McGee

Lol putards are so easily duped!


73 posted on 09/20/2022 3:30:30 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: cranked

Propagandist clown. This was an article published back in 2015 after a Ukraine parliamentary vote that passed a ‘motion to amend’ existing law into resolution. It is DRAFT LAW that was made available to download on Radas website January 15, 2015 under then current president Petro Poroshenko.

From the Verkhovna Rada Website January 15, 2015 :

“The Verkhovna Rada adopted as a basis the draft law on amendments to several legislative acts of Ukraine on strengthening responsibility of military men, granting commanders additional rights, and assigning duties during the special period”

“Draft Law” Registered under Bill# 1762, Information Department of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Secretariat Published on 15 January 2015, at 17:33

If you bothered reading the article and downloaded the text of the ‘proposed’ amendment, you would realize that it was a “MOTION” that passed for consideration of proposed draft law.

The amendment is refereed to as ‘law’ in its draft ‘bill’ form, as it moves along the required parliamentary motions/readings until it is refined and has passes final vote and then BECOMES actual law when the president signs it and the signed law is Published in its entirety on Verkhovna Rada, which it never was but only the download draft was made available.

Bills are typically considered by the Verkhovna Rada(Ukraine Parliament) following the procedure of three readings(or motions to pass any refinements/changes); the President of Ukraine must sign the final passed ‘bill’(law) before it can be officially enacted/enforced... none of which happened with this specific proposal that has been paraphrased out of context by some knucklehead Newsweek journalist dramatizing the passed resolution with the misleading headline “Allowing Military to Shoot Deserters.”

Simply put... bill# 1762 final draft was never adopted and passed into law.

Try doing a little objective research before driveling this garbage onto FR.


74 posted on 09/20/2022 3:38:11 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: tlozo
#57. That was difficult to read. Other than his name nearly everything Johnson said was a lie, and not particularly good lies at that. This is the nature of Russian propaganda. just pile on falsehood after falsehood not matter how poorly done.

The late Robert Fisk was entertaining when he was making things up. If you want a trip down memory lane or a laugh, there is this thread by him, Iraqi Army's Defenses Seem Impenetrable (Fisk). Fisk had a nice literary style. As to which is more deranged between Fisk on Iraq or the Middle East, and any Russian shill today over Ukraine, is a matter of opinion.

75 posted on 09/20/2022 7:18:40 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: tlozo

It takes a brave man to be a coward in the Russian army.


76 posted on 09/20/2022 7:30:11 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: tlozo

The Ukes should not be accepting any surrenders. Prisoners have to be sheltered, fed and guarded, wasting resources and manpower. Kill ‘em all!


77 posted on 09/22/2022 7:51:12 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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