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Russian Troops Now to Get Tough Punishment If They Surrender in Ukraine
1945 ^ | 9/20/2022 | Jack Buckby

Posted on 09/20/2022 12:49:44 PM PDT by tlozo

Russia Passes New Law To Prevent Disheartened Troops from Abandoning Duty in Ukraine – As Russia continues to face heavy troop, weapon, and territory losses in Ukraine, the nation’s parliament approved new legislation on Tuesday designed to prevent more troops from abandoning their duty and the battlefield.

The new legislation establishes stricter rules for soldiers and harsher punishments for those who surrender or desert the battlefield in Ukraine. Under the new law, abandoning duty during “mobilization, martial law, or wartime” would be considered an aggravating factor and result in worse punishment.

It is the first time that this language has appeared in Russia’s legal code, which already had punishments in place for soldiers deserting the battlefield, and comes as more soldiers express concerns about the way the war has been conducted by the Kremlin and military officials.

What Are the Punishments?

Under the law, soldiers face prison sentences of up to 10 years for voluntarily surrendering and 15 years for looting. The new language incorporated into existing law means that these offenses, when committed during martial law, mobilization, or wartime, are more likely to result in maximum prison sentences.

Conscientious objectors who refuse to fight when required will face prison sentences of up to three years during wartime.

Human rights attorney Pavel Chikov reported on the draft Duma bill on his Telegram account, describing how the new language has never before been seen in the Russian Criminal Code.

Chikov confirmed that the second reading of the bill was scheduled for Tuesday, September 20 and that it would likely be approved by the Federation Council and signed by President Vladimir Putin before the day’s end. In an update, he confirmed that the legislation was “unanimously” approved in the second and third readings.

The human rights lawyer also said that a hotline for military personnel is currently in operation and encouraged soldiers to contact his team of military lawyers for assistance.

Selective Enforcement in Ukraine?

Russian law already prohibits soldiers from looting, but few, if any, appear to have been prosecuted following accusations of looting private homes and farms in Ukraine.

In April, reports revealed how Russian soldiers had engaged in widespread and “systematic” looting. The Guardian revealed how evidence gathered from across occupied Ukrainian territory showed that looting had not only been conducted by a “few wayward soldiers,” but that it was a “systematic part of Russian military behavior, across multiple towns and villages.”

In May, Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov said during a national television address that Russian soldiers had looted priceless artifacts from a museum in the city.

According to a report by the New York Times, the director of Melitopol’s Museum of Local History had hidden the artifacts in the cellar, but the Russians could still steal at least 198 gold items, as well as silver coins, medals, and rare weapons.


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To: ScottinVA

Russian troops are well know having low military know-how and zero discipline.
Rape and plunder is about all they can handle.
Not very glorious but hey... What you see is what you get.


41 posted on 09/20/2022 1:39:21 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: for-q-clinton

True that.. just sometimes in the heat of conflict, the interpretation can be a bit murky given the circumstances.


42 posted on 09/20/2022 1:40:00 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: Travis McGee; ought-six

Unbelievable. Some sick, sick people supporting this bum.


43 posted on 09/20/2022 1:41:43 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston; ought-six

Sounds like our dear Jon Preston was a draft-dodger, doesn’t it?


44 posted on 09/20/2022 1:43:00 PM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: ought-six

FR Russian trolls don’t distinguish between volunteers and mercenaries why should they distinguish between deserters and conscientious objectors?

https://www.unilad.com/news/russian-soldiers-surrender-in-ukraine-20220914

The little Strelnikovs should go to Russia and enforce order, discipline and show the world Putinista Triumph-of-the-Will in action.


45 posted on 09/20/2022 1:43:41 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: JonPreston

Still waiting for your reply to my challenge, as per:

Thread: “UKraine’s counter-offensive recaptures first village in Luhansk”

9/20/2022, 1:20:22 PM · 80 of 85

ought-six to JonPreston

You said: “Your feckless support of any and all wars is all the proof one needs see you’re a Neocon. See how evidence works?”

My challenge: “Please link to my comments that state I fecklessly support all wars. Come on, Sparky: You made the accusation, back it up; or provide a public retraction here on this thread.”

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46 posted on 09/20/2022 1:44:51 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Red Badger

STALIN JUST HAD THEM SHOT, SO IT’S PROGRESS...


As I understand it, at war’s end, Soviet POWs returning to the motherland faced years in the Gulag—because they had surrendered. Soviet soldiers who managed to escape German captivity faced much harsher punishment because of the belief that they were spies.


47 posted on 09/20/2022 1:46:39 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: JonPreston

The new NATO/EU anthem is:

“Globo-Homo, Uber Alles...”


48 posted on 09/20/2022 1:47:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JonPreston; Travis McGee

“Some sick, sick people supporting this bum.”

Well, McGee must, as he seems to have a folder of such pics.

Me? I support the Ukrainian people, and their defense against an invader. To me, Ukraine’s president is immaterial in that struggle.


49 posted on 09/20/2022 1:48:59 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Chainmail

“Sounds like our dear Jon Preston was a draft-dodger, doesn’t it?”

Well, I doubt he ever served in the military; well, at least not ours.


50 posted on 09/20/2022 1:50:10 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

Actually... Ukrainians are carefully hoarding Russian prisoners by the thousands. They are NOT killing them! They are a goldmine to be preserved at all cost!
They need those prisoners to later exchange them for all the Ukrainian children the Kremlinists have deported to Russia - in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2022/08/05/deporting-ukrainian-children-and-russifying-them-is-jeopardizing-the-future-of-ukraine_5992568_23.html


51 posted on 09/20/2022 1:51:19 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: ought-six
It's funny: I used to believe that the one thing that true conservatives did was serve their country at some point in their lives, if they were physically able. You know, love their country to the point of offering our lives for everyone.

To my sorrow, I found that we have some traitors, Russophiles, Chinese bots and refugees from the pro-enemy '60s hanging around on this forum.

52 posted on 09/20/2022 1:54:24 PM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: ScottinVA

You could see this coming a mile away when the FSB and state security forces tortured and executed UKR soldiers recently in Kupiansk. Word of that spread like wildfire among the Russian troops. They refuse to fight for a reason.

Moronic action of Russian C&C. Almost as stupid as priority targeting of civilians.

The Mongol BS will not be tolerated even by their own troops now.


53 posted on 09/20/2022 1:55:08 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Chainmail

“To my sorrow, I found that we have some traitors, Russophiles, Chinese bots and refugees from the pro-enemy ‘60s hanging around on this forum.”

Yes, it’s sad.


54 posted on 09/20/2022 1:56:24 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

No Ukraine soldiers surrender or give up. All are Heroes who will fight to the death! Only when ammunition is gone and all hope gone will they even consider surrender. These are not just soldiers but living saints with the hearts of Crusaders. They are new Knights templar fighting a holy war against evil. In this war no Ukraine will ever do anything bad—just as No Russian Orks can do anything good or decent.


55 posted on 09/20/2022 1:56:46 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: ought-six

It’s a damn shame you don’t support the American 🇺🇸 taxpayers, who are really, really tired of picking up the bills for your illegal wars. Now beat it.


56 posted on 09/20/2022 1:57:48 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Kazan
https://sonar21.com/did-you-know-that-ukrainian-soldiers-are-routing-russian-forces-and-collapsing-russias-northern-donbas-axis/

Right, like Larry Johnson has been correct on Ukraine:

Larry C. Johnson — a former CIA analyst who has also worked in the State Department’s Counter-terrorism department — has claimed in a recent interview with US-based UNZ.com that, “within the first 24 hours of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, all Ukrainian Ground Radar Intercept capabilities were wiped out. Without those radars, the Ukrainian Air Force lost its ability to do air to air intercept…”

“Russia’s arrival in Kiev within three days of the invasion also caught my attention… so-called American military experts claimed that Russia was bogged down. When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) column was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated,” claimed Johnson.

“The scale and scope of the Russian attack is remarkable. They captured territory in three weeks that is larger than the land mass of the United Kingdom. They then proceeded to carry out targeted attacks on key cities and military installations. We have not seen a single instance of a Ukrainian regiment or brigade size unit attacking and defeating a comparable Russian unit. Instead, the Russians have split the Ukrainian Army into fragments and cut their lines of communication. The Russians are consolidating their control of Mariupol and have secured all approaches on the Black Sea. Ukraine is now cut off in the South and the North.”

“I would note that the U.S. had a tougher time capturing this much territory in Iraq in 2003 while fighting against a far inferior, less capable military force,” he claimed.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/veteran-cia-analyst-claims-ukraine-military-suffered-major-losses-in-war/articleshow/90466150.cms

57 posted on 09/20/2022 1:58:23 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: JonPreston

Still waiting for your response to the following:

UKraine’s counter-offensive recaptures first village in Luhansk

9/20/2022, 1:20:22 PM · 80 of 85

ought-six to JonPreston

You said: “Your feckless support of any and all wars is all the proof one needs see you’re a Neocon. See how evidence works?”

My challenge: “Please link to my comments that state I fecklessly support all wars. Come on, Sparky: You made the accusation, back it up; or provide a public retraction here on this thread.”

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Man up, or shut up.


58 posted on 09/20/2022 2:03:06 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: tlozo

Russia has never been known for its gentle treatment of troops. Next will be MG squads behind the line of advancing troops with orders to shoot anyone who does not advance.


59 posted on 09/20/2022 2:17:00 PM PDT by Yorlik803
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To: ought-six

Hush 🤫 you feckless Neocon. No war for Piggies 🐷


60 posted on 09/20/2022 2:23:07 PM PDT by JonPreston
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