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To: Campion

Heck, I just saw a video of a woman walking down her street in a wealthy neighborhood of Chicago at 3:00 pm when a car full of thugs rolled up next to her, theee of them jumped out and pushed her down and robbed her at gun point.

So maybe it’s her fault…after all, she just should stay home and lock herself in the house 24/7 in order not to give the thugs an opportunity.

The solution is not to tolerate this and to punish the thugs severely and to restore a law-abiding, safe society - at any time of day or night.

Blaming the victim IS “thinking like a brain dead liberal,” because it excuses the thugs from having to have any control over their actions.

Btw, the thug who killed the jogger had a history in his housing project of following and grabbing women who lived there and offering to pay them money for sex or holding them rubbing up against them…and they never complained to the police because they obviously thought there was no point and that thugs ruled and he’d probably make things worse for them if they complained. These were all black women, and they obviously are so accustomed to living in a lawless and savage environment that they just thanked their lucky stars that they were able to get him off them.


110 posted on 09/07/2022 6:24:24 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
The solution is not to tolerate this and to punish the thugs severely and to restore a law-abiding, safe society - at any time of day or night.

You're setting up a false dichotomy. It's not either be prudent and situationally aware and prepared to defend yourself against possible threats or punish the thugs severely, it's both/and.

So maybe it’s her fault

Once again, you're confusing counselling prudent behavior given the threat environment with assigning moral blame. That's morally confused reasoning. The moral blame still rests with the perps. It still makes sense for potential victims to behave prudently.

Let me help you by giving you an easy example. You're an American soldier at the front in France in 1944. You walk around in plain view of the enemy, with no camouflage, unarmed, in the middle of the day. You get shot.

Pointing out that walking around in plain view of the enemy with no weapon and no camouflage in a combat zone is foolish behavior is not taking blame away from Hitler and putting it on the dead American soldier. It's explaining prudent behavior in a combat zone.

I'm sorry that many American cities are combat zones, especially for women who are alone. My sorrow doesn't change the fact that they are.

I'm not sure a truly law-abiding, safe society has ever existed; study up sometime on the serial killers in 19th C and early 20th C America, not to mention England and Europe.

121 posted on 09/07/2022 6:56:00 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: livius
The solution is not to tolerate this and to punish the thugs severely and to restore a law-abiding, safe society - at any time of day or night.

That is *NOT* going to happen. So now what? Go out at 3:00 AM anyway? Not unless you are an idiot.

Blaming the victim IS “thinking like a brain dead liberal,” because it excuses the thugs from having to have any control over their actions.

"Excuses" my @$$. It acknowledges the reality that *THE LAW* is not going to allow you to do anything about this human garbage infecting our streets.

154 posted on 09/07/2022 12:01:20 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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