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Kherson 'Counteroffensive' - Zelenski Is Going For Broke
Moon of Alabama ^ | 5 Sep 22 | B

Posted on 09/05/2022 6:44:24 AM PDT by delta7

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Any comments from Biden’s war cheerleaders?
1 posted on 09/05/2022 6:44:24 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Lindsey GrahamIdiot approves.

‘Senator Lindsey Graham wants to fund Ukraine until the “Last Ukrainian” is dead.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MSWezIB06g


2 posted on 09/05/2022 6:46:02 AM PDT by cranked
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To: delta7

eventually he’ll run out of other people’s money to gamble with


3 posted on 09/05/2022 6:47:34 AM PDT by bigbob (z)
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To: delta7

This sounds a lot like the Battle of the Bulge. Once it’s over, the war is essentially over.


4 posted on 09/05/2022 6:48:13 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: delta7

Zalenskyy is a comedian, not a field marshal. His meddling is getting troops killed.

He is also responding to pressure from the Western nations to “do something”.


5 posted on 09/05/2022 6:51:53 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: delta7

NATO will fight until the last Ukrainian.

“Ukrainian channel Legitimny reports Helensky is prepared to sacrifice up to 20K dead and 40k wounded in the Kherson offensive, which would be 6% of his army.”


6 posted on 09/05/2022 6:52:16 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: delta7

“In principle, the options are:...ii) “ramp up critical shortfalls” by invoking Defense Production Act”

SERIOUSLY??? They haven’t even done that little? I figured that it was invoked on Feb 25, which is why I was never hearing about it.

Guess it never occurred to them, as they think Russia is losing due to only reading the NY Times.


7 posted on 09/05/2022 6:52:23 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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They’re calling the area around Kherson a graveyard. Zelesnky’s battle cry is get back up and keep going regardless of the death toll - (over and over again) - which has been massive.

Nato wants to see land regained.


8 posted on 09/05/2022 6:55:14 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: delta7

I’ve consistently said I don’t believe the propaganda coming out of either side in this war, eventually one side will give up and negotiate.

If Russia can’t be pushed out of Ukraine, which I don’t think Ukraine is capable of, I doubt Putin would be willing to negotiate anytime soon.

Given the sanctions that Western Countries have placed on Russia, he will likely force them to go thru the winter at the very least before negotiating and he might hold out until all sanctions are lifted by every Western Country before negotiating.


9 posted on 09/05/2022 6:55:14 AM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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Who launches a major offensive that:

Was advertised for months?
No superiority in troops or tanks?
Greatly outnumbered in artillery?
Zero air support with an enemy that has air superiority?
With a hodgepodge of various donated equipment and barely trained troops?


10 posted on 09/05/2022 6:55:51 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: delta7
Let's ask the German voters what they think.


11 posted on 09/05/2022 6:56:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Is Zelenski the same as Zelensky or Zelenskyy ?


12 posted on 09/05/2022 6:56:47 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Hard to get reliable information regarding this war. If however the Ukrainians were unable to take advantage of the unique opportunity of the “Kherson bridgehead”, then they really have no realistic chance to win. The Russians had 25,000 hard pressed, poorly supplied troops with their backs against the Dnieper with the bridges cut. They had no reliable means to resupply, reinforce or withdraw. Yet somehow they seemed to have won. Seems like a repeat of the Battle of Stalingrad.


13 posted on 09/05/2022 6:58:19 AM PDT by allendale
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I thought the Russian only had two weeks worth of shells left... last March.


14 posted on 09/05/2022 7:00:31 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: cranked

15 posted on 09/05/2022 7:00:53 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: delta7
Nothing about this offensive looks like some hyper-aggressive "going for broke". It looks pretty methodical, beginning with shaping the battlefield. This isn't the Brusilov Offensive.

I expect we'll see more ramping up of production of munitions we are sending to Ukraine. And frankly, considering who this war is against, NATO can afford to draw down its stockpiles to some extent because there's really nobody else to fight. A land war against China is unlikely in the extreme.

16 posted on 09/05/2022 7:02:40 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (I personally am skeptical of the quality of most Russian troops as well)
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Russians had 25,000 hard pressed, poorly supplied troops

Don't be so quick to buy into the propaganda that Russians are "running out of supplies". We've been hearing that for 6 months.

17 posted on 09/05/2022 7:03:30 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: delta7

The leaders in the west will fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.


18 posted on 09/05/2022 7:08:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: BobL
This sounds a lot like the Battle of the Bulge.

Except in the Ardennes there was a substantial breakthrough and a general collapse by the defenders. Northwind might be a better analogy. Or even the French invasion of Germany in 1939.

19 posted on 09/05/2022 7:14:13 AM PDT by PAR35
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Who launches a major offensive that:

Was advertised for months?
No superiority in troops or tanks?
Greatly outnumbered in artillery?
Zero air support with an enemy that has air superiority?
With a hodgepodge of various donated equipment and barely trained troops?
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A country TOLD to do so, part of the western “ Russia Derangement Syndrome”.
…..Fighting Vlad down to the last Ukrainian….events are shaping up to reasonably deduce the West has plans to carve up a totally destroyed Ukraine.

The West knows Vlad will never give up an inch of the ethnic Russian territories.
That leaves the East to Russia, and the Western ethnic Ukrainian areas go back to their historic countries, Poland, Romania, etc.

Conflict solved. Russia gets their NATO buffer zone, nations surrounding Ukraine get their historic territory back, and Ukraine gets to keep Kiev area.

Ukraine RIP 1991-2023


20 posted on 09/05/2022 7:14:15 AM PDT by delta7
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