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Kash Patel: All The Documents At Mar-a-Lago Were Already Declassified Unilaterally By President Trump (video)
realclearpolitics ^ | August 12, 2022 | By Tim Hains

Posted on 08/12/2022 2:03:08 PM PDT by dennisw

Former Trump national security staffer Kash Patel called in with Martha Maccallum on FOX News on Friday to react to the release of the warrant used by the FBI to search President Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort home.

"If he says something is declassified, that's it, it is declassified," Patel explained. "He declassified a whole set of documents that should have come out... That's on the National Archives to sort that material out... Even if it was classified, they'll never meet the burden of intent because the president didn't pack it up and take it out himself, the G.S.A. has said they did it and they made a mistake."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creepstate; deepstate; kashpatel; kashyappatel; marthamaccallum; policestate; singlepartystate; timhains
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To: dennisw

This is now a giant he said/she said clusterbleep. This is exactly what that left wanted to throw more shade on Trump. I’m furious.


81 posted on 08/12/2022 3:25:33 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Baier's argument would mean that it isn't the president who declassifies information, but rather his subordinates. And that doesn't make any sense.

That's exactly how today's National Review podcast explained it in their defense of President Trump.

If any of this winds up in court, all President Trump has to say is, "I declassified it before I left office." and that's the end of it.

82 posted on 08/12/2022 3:26:18 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: oneandfinished

Brett Baier is a communist POS who should have the shit kicked out of
Him.


83 posted on 08/12/2022 3:26:20 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: Vermont Lt

This entire ordeal is a hit job more commonly found in dictatorships around the world. Accuse your greatest foe as a traitor and get rid of them.


84 posted on 08/12/2022 3:29:58 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: Drew68

Yes, and Kash Patel has stated that he was there when PDJT declassified the docs so there is an eye witness ... which is totally unnecessary, no witness is needed, but there is one.


85 posted on 08/12/2022 3:30:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: TigersEye

I’m starting to think Garland is incompetent and he’s a legal mind?!


86 posted on 08/12/2022 3:42:31 PM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: dennisw
Even if it was classified, they'll never meet the burden of intent because the president didn't pack it up and take it out himself, the G.S.A. has said they did it and they made a mistake.",

I have posted this on several webpages discussing this

The GSA might have made a mistake, or maybe even put something incriminating into these papers.

But one doubts that Trump read each and every document in those 16 boxes before they were packed up.

As for secret and top secret material: A lot of nonsense is listed as top secret by some bureaucrat who likes pushing his authority.

One does wish Trump had scanned all of these documents and since Assange is in prison and other whistle blowers are in Russia, he should put them up on the pirate Bay for all to examine. (end sarcasm).

87 posted on 08/12/2022 3:43:53 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: dennisw

By definition, if they are at Mar-a-Lago they are unclassified.


88 posted on 08/12/2022 3:45:44 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: existentially_kuffer

I think he is incredibly incompetent and this raid on Trump has exposed it in spades.

The U.S. dodged a nuclear bullet when his SCOTUS nomination was scuttled. What a disaster that would have been.


89 posted on 08/12/2022 3:46:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: Drew68
He's going to have to show see evidence that he actually did it. He did it for the Crossfire Hurricane documents. Even though underlings didn't do those steps, I .think his written determination is all that is needed.

But it also can't just be an ex-President saying "oh yeah, I declassified that back when I was President."

90 posted on 08/12/2022 3:53:25 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: oneandfinished

He can say it’s declassified and it immediately is. But then a whole bunch of ppl/agencies have to sign off on it to make it “official.” The papers were pry related to the FBI shenanigans surrounding Russiagate and Jan. 6th so of course they’ll never get around to officially declassifying them. In fact, they want them destroyed so they can’t be exposed. So technically Kash is correct. And I’d believe him before I’d believe anything coming out of Bret Baier’s mouth.


91 posted on 08/12/2022 3:53:38 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: DiogenesLamp

Those lines are already drawn.
More theater isn’t going to change.


92 posted on 08/12/2022 3:55:28 PM PDT by Reily
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Probably planting something not supposed to be there.


93 posted on 08/12/2022 3:56:52 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Socon-Econ

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-3-why-did-the-doj-and-fbi-execute-the-raid-on-trump-a-culmination-of-four-years-of-threats-and-betrayals/


Read this, it’s a good explanation of the De-classification process and what Trump is up against.


94 posted on 08/12/2022 3:57:50 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: dennisw

“What does it say about the Biden DOJ taking a 1.5 years to recover Top Secret information that is so valuable to National Security.”

It says they were waiting for the midterms.


95 posted on 08/12/2022 3:59:12 PM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Vermont Lt
You don’t get it after 7 yrs of this crap? They hate him. Viscerally hate him. He’s an outsider that they never thought would survive the election count.

They’ve thwarted him at every step along the way since then. He didn’t play ball with them from the beginning and was threatening to break up the Deep State. He cannot be allowed to survive, at least politically.

Recently, they’ve seen the power he still wields over the GOP so they’re trying to take him down permanently now.

Are you sure you’re on the right site? 🤣

96 posted on 08/12/2022 4:00:08 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: dennisw

Doesn’t matter anymore. The FBI and DOJ will fabricate whatever they need to lock up Trump until at least 2025. The precedent is set with the January 6th prisoners. My fears. Trump will be arrested, charged, thrown in solitary confinement (for national security reasons of course), without bail (because he is a flight risk heading out to Russia, of course) and he will rot for a couple years when either a phony conviction is made by a trial before a single judge for some invented crime he didn’t commit.

As Chomo Joe says, “this isn’t hyperbole.”

This will not end well.


97 posted on 08/12/2022 4:09:29 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
He's going to have to show see evidence that he actually did it.

What evidence? That his subordinates followed his orders and changed the classification markings? That’s on them, not President Trump.

If he said he declassified something, then he did just that. He was the president. He’s not beholden to some office drone who might’ve been like, “It’s Friday afternoon and this is a lot of paperwork. Looks like a Monday problem.”

But, we are in uncharted territory here because, as far as I know, the Presidential Records Act has never been enforced against a former president, and certainly not in the manner of a FBI raid.

So I suspect when push comes to shove, the exchange is going to look like this:

”I declassified these documents.”

”Prove it.”

At which point, Donald Trump needs only to refer to the powers granted to him in the Constitution as the Chief Executive.

98 posted on 08/12/2022 4:10:27 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Fury
Re: 52 - As long as President Trump has some documentation that documents were declassified, he’s good to go.

Even if there was no documentation, a declaration that a classified fact is now no longer classified is not invalid. The fact of declassification just becomes more difficult to prove.

Where a lot of this falls into the "there is a process that has to be followed" is that when you declassify one thing, it is very likely going to cascade into a whole bunch of other things being declassified. Updating those markings comprehensively is a hugely difficult and manually intensive job to do and unless you can draw a nice little circle around everything that is now no longer classified, it's impossible to do accurately. You are also obligated to treat classification markings as accurate unless you have direct evidence otherwise. That's one of the reasons why stuff sits in this sort of limbo world of "possibly declassified but not officially declassified."

If you really want to bake your noodle, a subsequent President could decide "you know what, that guy was wrong" and reclassify stuff that was previously declassified. If the information hasn't gotten out to the public (and because the deep state can withhold and slow walk FOIA information that falls outside of the classified world purview, that happened all the time in the Trump administration), it's like the declassification never even happened.

Now if you think that's bulls###, that the system is rigged, and there's no real accountability, of course you'll understand when someone points out that this was the whole point all along.

99 posted on 08/12/2022 4:15:41 PM PDT by jz638
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To: Prince of Space

Oh, did I land on the site that dismisses critical thinking?

Or do I need to believe all of the crap floating around and blindly follow Trump.

The guy surrounds himself with incompetent idiots, fails to get basic paperwork completed, and the spouts Reddit level memes about Obama.

Yeah…this site used to have folks that questioned, researched, and discussed.

Now it’s full of little minnows who believe what the cult tells them, follows a fossil…right into defeat in November. You think the first two years of Biden were bad? Wait til you see what they do next.

All because you follow blindly. That’s never a good plan.


100 posted on 08/12/2022 4:16:01 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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