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...were protected opinions at the time.

Kinda gets them off the hook for everything, doesn't it?

1 posted on 07/27/2022 5:22:45 PM PDT by Magnatron
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The Alex Jones Sandy Hook show trial is the same issue.

The propaganda press is immune from slander lawsuits, but Alex Jones is guilty and not even allowed to say he is not guilty.


2 posted on 07/27/2022 5:25:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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Kinda gets them off the hook for everything, doesn't it?

Essentially, it appears the judge held, noting is factual, anything can be stated as an opinion, even when there is clear, direct video evidence to the contrary, easily available.

I may need to read this opinion.

3 posted on 07/27/2022 5:26:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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Three already settled, so nick is still well fixed. These are additional suits.


4 posted on 07/27/2022 5:27:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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A Peanut Farmer appointee.


5 posted on 07/27/2022 5:28:00 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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Sandmann antagonizing Phillips by standing in front of him and smiling.

OMG, not the antagonizing smiling!

Perhaps he should have used a 14" stick of 1/2" rebar instead of that antagonizing smiling.

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6 posted on 07/27/2022 5:33:38 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Kinda gets them off the hook for everything, doesn't it?

I thought he had already won a ton of money. Anyway, I guess all these A holes ever have to say, is that it was our opinion, and that makes it ok. What A holes.

7 posted on 07/27/2022 5:33:57 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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Words never mattered. Words are a sucker’s game.


8 posted on 07/27/2022 5:38:45 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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This judgment seems ridiculous on its face. It appears designed to protect the MSM with little basis in actual law.
I am not aware of any law that allows a news org to lie and slander if a news org claims it is our opinion and we are entitled to it.
On an Opinion Show this is a valid argument. But, these libels were also engaged in on so-called MSM Hard News programming. An appeal of this judgment is very likely.


10 posted on 07/27/2022 5:41:11 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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Carter judge.


11 posted on 07/27/2022 5:42:15 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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86 year old POS has been feeding at the public trough for almost 43 years.

Maybe he got enough out of this case to retire comfortably.

Don’t soil your robe there ass wipe, it’s only my opinion


12 posted on 07/27/2022 5:46:09 PM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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He was a teenager, under 18, and they plastered his face and called him a racist all around the world.


13 posted on 07/27/2022 5:48:18 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Fill your lamps!)
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claiming that media assertions that Sandmann "blocked" Phillips were protected opinions at the time.

They weren't media assertions, they were intentional propaganda.

The LAAP-dog media had access to the full video, and were able to see the entirety of the events, but chose to run a snippet that isolated Sandmann and nobody else.

That was opinion, that was malfeasance.

-PJ

14 posted on 07/27/2022 5:48:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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As usual, the most ignorant comments are made by those who have apparently not read the Judge’s ruling.

Not surprised.


16 posted on 07/27/2022 5:49:52 PM PDT by Fury
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So, then how do people get to go after Alex Jones for his opinion on the Sandy Hook school shooting? It was just his opinion.


19 posted on 07/27/2022 5:56:19 PM PDT by CFW
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It appears that Judge William Bertelsman is getting a new beach house.

5.56mm


29 posted on 07/27/2022 6:23:48 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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Our libel laws were written so they could check the box and say, ok we have one, but they high are extremely hard to win.


31 posted on 07/27/2022 6:29:13 PM PDT by bigbob (z)
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Appointed by Jimmah Cahtah. IOW: A real loser.


32 posted on 07/27/2022 6:31:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The House is supposed to represent the people, not the friggin' Federal government. )
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Thanks so much to that bunny beating buffoon Jimmuh.


34 posted on 07/27/2022 6:44:25 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Asking celebrities to analyze politics is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer to be a judge at a cook-off.)
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An opinion that is both incendiary and reprehensible and not based in fact is actionable.

For example, a declarative statement that “Judge William Bertelsman is a pedophile” is actionable if it is untrue.

35 posted on 07/27/2022 6:53:15 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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Not at all. Liberal Judge covering for liberal media. The judge’s decision will early be reversed on appeal and the case assigned to a different judge.

Not a lawyer, but I have read every SCOTUS decision on defamation from the last 50+ years. Reversal is pretty much a slam dunk.

A judge calling the defamation an opinion and claiming opinions are not actionable is not the law.

These media personnel were claiming he is a racist. Publishing stuff the is untrue or with a blatant disregard for the truth of the matter makes the publisher liable, even moreso when the potential plaintiff demands a retraction and the potential defendants don’t provide one.

The media outlets that settled knew they defamed Sandmann and chose to pay rather than risk huge damage verdicts in a trial.

This is not over, not by a long shot. Even if the 6th circuit upholds the District Court Judge, this is a case that the SCOTUS may very well accept for review. 3-4 Justices have made it known they are interested in reconsidering the Sullivan v. NY Times case.


43 posted on 07/27/2022 9:06:59 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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