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To: whitney69
And he would have been replaced by the president pro tempore for not doing his job and the process would have continued.

*EVEN* if that is true, which I'm not sure I believe, it would have still been a better result than what we have now.

Perhaps you see this differently, but I think it is in the best interest of the nation to create the impression that Joe Biden is absolutely illegitimate and he needs to go down in history with a footnote saying "disputed legitimacy."

The Media would have screamed, heads would have exploded, and otherwise cowardly office holders might have stepped forward and said "Pence has got a point."

Maybe it would have motivated legislatures to actually do their jobs regarding election laws being broken.

There are laws out there that have to be followed.

Yes, like laws forbidding the use of private servers to hold top secret government documents. Like laws against arson or assault. Like laws forbidding the use of made up evidence to get warrants.

Tell me about these laws that DC requires everyone to uphold.

And let me be clear. I understand what you are saying I just disagree that it is correct.

76 posted on 07/21/2022 8:35:15 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“...I just disagree that it is correct.”

Then look it up. And I’ll help you with that. Here is the congressional way things are done from a congress website:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-2/section-1/

And this one is from congress based upon numerous amendments:

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/state-officials/presidential-election-brochure.pdf

The president of the senate, the VPOTUS, is just as scripted as the action by the electors all the way to determination of winner. The VPOTUS cannot stop the finished process except through challenges by congress at the time of the action. There were challenges, which Pence recognized and started the proper action to determine their status. But when they were starting them in committee, they had to evacuate and later could not provide the votes required to go forward with them when they reconvened in committees.

As for Pence, if he volunteers to waiver from doing the scripted job he is to perform, then he is unavailable to do the work. The Constitution instructs the Senate to choose a president pro tempore to preside over the Senate in the absence of the vice president. Pro tempore is a Latin term meaning “for the time being,” signaling that the position was originally conceived as a temporary replacement. Pence did exactly what he was supposed to do. He would become absent the moment he waivered from his scripted actions.

I don’t disagree with you that the election was tainted due to the thousands of arrests, and many convictions, for voter tampering, proven and questionable incidences, and fraud. But there is no legal precedence to change the scripted procedure in the Constitution other than what was done. So Pence is no more to blame than the people the country elected that didn’t do their job by recognizing the problem but not supporting (voting in committee) the way to correct it. And that all boils down to the failure of the voters, the states, and the many organizations in existence to keep people like this out of D.C. The founders never imagined this type of mistreatment of the country. And they never imagined such a wide spread conspiracy needed to keep it from finishing honestly with the process they did put in place per the Cosntitution.

wy69


77 posted on 07/21/2022 11:22:59 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Yes, like laws forbidding the use of private servers to hold top secret government documents...

Sorry, I almost forgot...There is no law for government servers concerning security. It falls under a DOD instruction:

https://www.esd.whs.mil/portals/54/documents/dd/issuances/dodi/850001_2014.pdf

There are a lot of laws protecting the citizens from cyber actions, but not for government stored information. That falls under federal control.

The problem with the process that I found in Hilly’s situation is that she never signed the form that she had been briefed before they gave her a CAC card. She claimed she wasn’t, but there were signed documents in her PIF.

There are a number of documents to sign off to receive a clearance especially at her level being Sec Of State. So someone must have said something to her at some point otherwise she wouldn’t have received secret clearance to observe the documents she had access to to include high level top secret. I worked in NBC so mine was pretty high. It took a while to get it down graded when I retired. And mine was evaluated and re-established annually because of what I did. She would be in the same boat but apparently there was some errors made. And she had to know it.

wy69


78 posted on 07/21/2022 11:54:00 AM PDT by whitney69
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