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To: freeandfreezing; All; delta7; Chunga85

“Your skill as a propagandist is low, maybe D- level at best.”

You are struggling, again. First, the US government and the Defense Department lied for years about running biolabs. They get busted by the Russians, and even Victoria Nuland has to admit... well... that what Congress was told was a lie (If you saw the hearing, Rubio was quite surprised at her response to what he thought was a softball question on biolabs.).

Now, after the the Pentagon and Biden Administrion are caught with their pants (or Depends, as the case may be) down in front of Congress, Psaki goes out less than 24 hours later and LIES again saying that it’s all Russian fake news (She must think that the arch Neocon Nuland is a paid agent of Putin; maybe you believe that.).

Then the Russians present at the UN captured documents (that are fully linked in the article.) showing research was going on regarding such “innocuous” things as spreading pathogens (such as H5N1, which allegedly has a50% fatality rate, Newcastle disease) via migrating birds.

Finally, the Pentagon admits, contrary to prior Biden Administration lies, that it was running 46 biolabs in Ukraine, but they were just doing “peaceful” research in the interest of “public health and agricultural safety” (and probably studying unicorns and rainbows, too).

Yes, GP quoted the Pentagon’s admission that all its former claims regarding the non-existence of biolabs in Ukraine were “inoperative”. That language also included statements that are utterly risible. Of course! The Pentagon is up to its ears in humanitarian research on public health and agricultural safety...in Ukraine, no less! Yep, the Pentagon is a regular Texas A&M, and Lloyd Austin is an Aggie who loves him some Ukrainian agricultural research. You apparently suffer from the tendency to believe whatever the Biden Administration says regarding the Ukraine, even if it requires believing simultaneously there are no labs and that there are labs and that the Pentagon is really a land grant university in disguise operating in Ukraine.

The fact is that the US has blatantly lied about the Pentagon having a network of biolabs in Ukraine. It is also lying ridiculously about what was being done. Moreover, our government and/or its media allies lie just about everything else - global warming, the reasons for skyrocketing energy prices, the health of the economy, the Russia collusion hoax, claiming Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation, the Big Guy never met with Hunter about his “business” deals, the Green New Deal is feasible, the vax was properly tested and is safe, the vax is a “one and done solution”, the spike protein injected by the vax stays in the deltoid musle, the vax won’t modify your DNA, facemasks protect against respiratory viruses, “social distancing” is effective for helping stop the spread of Covid, the PCR test is a proper diagnostic test for illness, Ivermectin and hydroxycloroquine are ineffective and may be harmful, Remdesivir is safe and effective, wiping down surfaces helps stop the spread of Covid, the vax has few, if any side effects, no one has been shown to die from the vax, President Depends is functional, inflation is Putin’s fault, men can be women if they feel like it, and vice versa, and on and on and on.

But what do you do? When it comes to your irrational hatred of the Russians, whatever President Depends and his friends in the media and elsewhere say is the “gold standard’ of truth. Whatever the Russians say is automatically a lie. It sounds childish because it is.

Reality? The Russian MOD daily battle reports and Russian statements about the war are usually, but not always, quite accurate. Biden/Ukrainian blather about the Ghost of Kiev, Snake Island, Miss Ukraine, the “Million Man Army”, massive Russian losses, the “Mass Rapes by Russians”, the Bucha Hoax, denials about the NeoNazis in the Ukrainian government and the UFA, and so on ad infinitum are mendacious moonshine.

We have a large, well funded psyops operation that the government is skilled at deploying, as the Covid hoax demonstrated. That psyops operation is now churning away convincing the gullible that day is night, and night is day with respect to Ukraine. The Russians have hardly engaged the West informationally because, I’m sure, they see that it is fultile to try to get through the Russophobia that is a relic from the days of the USSR and the superating smog of government and media lies.

In the meantime, while UFA victory is “just around the corner”, poor, defeated, badly equipped, morale challenged “Ivan” is taking fortified UFA position after UFA position and will soon have cleared the Donbass of the UFA. After that, well, he’ll probably continue “retreating” to the Dnieper, out to Transnistria, and out to Kharkov. But, who knows? Zelensky’s Million Man Army, with its “Wunderwaffen” may change everything.

If the US government and Nato were staffed by decent people, they would never pushed on Ukraine and the Russians to the point of bringing about this travesty. If they had consciences the current crop of politicians and bureaucrats in the West would have sought a negotiated settlement long ago. Instead, we get the sociopathic Biden Administration, its enablers in the US, and the clown posse leadership of NATO and the EU, which means death on an industrial scale continues in Ukraine.


82 posted on 07/19/2022 3:27:59 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000
the Bucha Hoax..

No reason to read anything else you have to say. That's a completely disproven attempt by the Russian propaganda operations to cover up for their atrocities in Bucha. You can watch the Russians killing civilians on video, but somehow the Putin propagandists like you are still repeating the Russian propaganda lies.

And that is why you get a D- for propaganda. You aren't even any good at that job.

83 posted on 07/19/2022 3:36:32 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: achilles2000

That Million Man Army announcement was one of the funniest propaganda lies of the conflict. All the logistics of NATO couldn’t train and equip a million man army no matter how hard it tried. The Ukraine has no chance of doing so. Where do they find a million rifles, thousands of APCs, tanks, trucks? Uniforms? Then they have to be trained - a months long process. Lol. The logistics are insurmountable. Maybe Zee is going to give a rifle to every other soldier and tell the others to capture one. Or maybe he will wait for winter because, as I learned from the Daily Mail that Russia isnt prepared for winter fighting. Lolol.

I am so proud of the patriotism and courage of so many FR keyboard warrior REMFs, all dedicated to fighting to the last Ukrainian 70 year old Volksturmer.


105 posted on 07/21/2022 11:17:27 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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