Posted on 07/19/2022 5:44:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz
The good Samaritan who shot and killed the gunman who opened fire in the Greenwood Park Mall in Indiana on Sunday afternoon reportedly broke the property's policy against weapons.
The suspected shooter entered the mall on Sunday carrying a rifle and multiple magazines and opened fire in the food court, killing at least three and injuring three before he was shot to death. Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison said the suspected shooter was killed by a "good Samaritan with a handgun."
The mall is owned by Simon Property Group, and the group's code of conduct, last updated in April of 2020, lists "No weapons" as number three.
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A prominent Indiana gun rights attorney representing this young man has said property rules are decided by the States. In Indiana, property rules are not laws and have no legal weight unless the property owner asks a person to leave or obey and the person refuses.
Simon malls did not do that, so in Indiana, the people most likely to get sued is Simon malls for not enforcing their rules. They don’t enforce those rules because it would cost them a lot of money. They might get sued over this.
How many people are alive today because he broke the rule?
Keep in mind, the US Pravda media thinks rules are laws anymore. Only a silly wabbit would think rules are not optional.
They actually believe if someone says “No firearms in store” that that is a law. It may be in some States, but not everywhere. They would know that if they did their homework instead of lecturing people when they have no clue what they are talking about.
> In Indiana, property rules are not laws and have no legal weight unless the property owner asks a person to leave or obey and the person refuses. <
That’s pretty much how it should be. I strongly believe in property rights. But a person shouldn’t have to guess what the property owner wants and doesn’t want. So if I’m carrying and the owner doesn’t like it, no problem. Tell me, and I’ll leave.
But here’s the thing. If the owner prominently posts “no firearms permitted” at every entrance, then the responsibility shifts. I’ve already been informed. If I enter anyway, then I’m the jerk and I should be subject to criminal penalties.
By the way, the following has happened to me more than once. I’m about to enter a store, and on the front door there is this big sign, “No firearms permitted.” I respect that. So I shop elsewhere.
Side note to the FBI snoops: I no longer have this problem, as all my firearms were lost in a boating accident last year.
Yes, but if you put a sign up then you best be prepared to enforce your rur rules. that means you make sure nobody enters that mall with a weapon. You have to pay for security. People disobey laws all the time. Criminals don’t care about laws and they don’t care about rules either.
There was nothing in that mall to stop that shooter from walking in there with a backpack full of weapons. He didn’t care one bit about some stupid sign posted because he knew that nobody was there to stop him from coming into that mall. Keep in mind, many people probably don’t even pay attention to signs posted.
I have never understood why leftists think that laws will stop criminals. “Oh, lets hurry and make a law” LOL They do not stop criminals because we have a shitload of laws and an even bigger shitload of crimes.
If it wasn’t for this one young man putting himself into the line of that criminal’s fire, many more people would have been dead.
If the Simon Malls want a damn gun free zone, then they need to open their pockets and enforce their rules. Otherwise a sign is a merely a joke.
> If the Simon Malls want a damn gun free zone, then they need to open their pockets and enforce their rules. Otherwise a sign is a merely a joke. <
I can’t argue with that. A “No firearms permitted.” sign means the exact same thing as one that says “Only criminals can carry firearms here.”
That’s yet another reason why I won’t shop at a place that prohibits firearms.
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