Posted on 07/17/2022 12:10:20 PM PDT by Kazan
If you were holding out hope that the media and military analysts predicting the imminent collapse of Russia because of the failed invasion of Ukraine would get a grip on reality, think again. I take the New York Times as the leading indicator of the establishment mindset and the Times published a piece that reveals the delusion and confusion about the war in Ukraine that infects the Washington/New York Swamps.
Put simply, the article–Ukraine’s Demands for More Weapons Clash With U.S. Concerns–tacitly concedes Russia is winning but holds out hope for a dramatic Ukrainian come back. Here are the highlights (and lowlights) of the piece tapped out by CIA mouthpiece, Eric Schmitt, and Julian Barnes:
The Ukrainians say they need faster shipments of long-range artillery and other sophisticated weapons to blunt Russia’s steady advance. The United States and the Europeans insist more are on the way but are wary of sending too much equipment before Ukrainian soldiers can be trained. The Pentagon is concerned about potentially depleting its stockpiles in the coming months.
Got that? Russia is advancing steadily. The weapon systems the US and NATO want to send outnumbers the Ukrainians trained to operate them. And the trillion dollar U.S. defense budget is running out of missiles and shells and cannot keep pace with the anemically funded Russians. Hilarious.
Now for the delusional parts of the Schmitt/Barnes article:
U.S. officials say Ukraine could mount a counterattack and claw back some — though not all — of the territory it has lost if it can continue to exact a bloody toll on Russia until new weapons can flow in from the West.
And if a frog had wings it could fly. The reason Ukraine is begging for new tanks, planes, artillery units and multiple launch rocket systems is because Russia has destroyed over 80% of Ukraine’s assets. And in the process of destroying tanks and planes and artillery pieces, Russia also has killed the best of Ukraine’s troops.
But that fact escapes Schmitt and Barnes. They happily peddle the DOD/CIA bullshit that Russia has suffered staggering losses and is scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill ostensibly depleted military units:
The nearly five-month war is at a critical moment, U.S. officials and others familiar with the intelligence assessments say. As many as 100 to 200 Ukrainian soldiers have died every day since Russia shifted its military campaign in the spring to focus on eastern Ukraine. But overall, about 20,000 Russians have been killed. Injuries have taken about 60,000 more off the battlefield. Nearly a third of Russia’s equipment has been destroyed in the war, according to Western officials, including several who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information.
To replenish its military, Russia would have to mobilize more of its population, by making a declaration of war — officially the conflict remains a “special military operation” — or by moving troops and equipment from Russia’s Far North or Far East to Ukraine.
Let me do the math for you. Russia started Phase 2–i.e., focusing on Donbass–on 1 April 2022. As of today, that is 104 days. If Ukraine was losing 100 a day that means only 10,400 have died. If the number is 200, that means 20,800. So let me get this straight. Ukraine, which is in a defensive crouch since April 1, has lost the Luhansk Republic and is being methodically pushed out of Donetsk, and has, under the worse case presented by US intelligence, suffered the same number of casualties as Russia?
If the Russian army actually suffered the kinds of losses claimed by Ukraine and the New York Times and anonymous US officials, then how in the hell did those sneaky Russians beat the crap out of the well entrenched Ukrainians? Russia started the “Special Military Operation” with approximately 200,000 troops. Yet the folks talking to Schmitt and Barnes insist that 80,000 Russians are casualties. In other words, 40% of the Russian force has been lost.
So, if that is true, those Russians must be incredible warriors. Ukraine has not taken back and defended a single hectare of territory it once held. This despite having a three to one numerical advantage over Russia. What the hell? Ukraine started the war with 600,000 soldiers against Russia’s paltry 200,000 and it is Russia that is, according to the Times, “steadily advancing.”
The real question that Schmitt and Barnes should have asked, how long can US officials continue to bullshit themselves and pour expensive weapon systems into a rat hole? The speed of Russia’s advance appears to be accelerating. There are reports today that Russian forces are entering the outskirts of Seversk, one of the key strong points of the new Ukrainian defensive line. If true, the Russians are likely to achieve a strategic breakthrough in the Donetsk.
What the gullible reporters and the morons who staff the CIA and DIA fail to comprehend is that Russia’s tactic of systematically destroying the air, armor and artillery assets over the past three months appears to have achieved Clausewitz’s culminating point–i.e., the point at which a military force is no longer able to perform its operations.
Ukraine, notwithstanding it numerical advantage in personnel, has yet to mount a significant offensive that has pushed the Russians back and kept them at bay. That is reality. The reality for Ukrainian troops is a nightmare. Here is a video of Russia attacking three columns of Ukrainian troops trying to launch an attack on Kherson in southern Ukraine (at link).
At some point, the American public will awaken to this reality and realize they have supported a program of unilateral disarmament. We sent many of our best weapons to Ukraine and the Russians are blowing them to hell.
Your little comments are meaningless.
But you make a great enemy agent.
Ukraine took back the land north of Kiev after the Russian offensive stalled. But then the Ukrainians in Bucha paid a terrible price.
There were lots of negotiations. But Russia demanded that Ukraine demilitarize and run all foreign relations through them. Pretty hard to negotiate when one side basically demands the other side stop being a country.
And you see a lot of their propaganda in the comments on this site. Amazing that many of the anticommunist Cold Warroriors of days gone by are now supporting Russias brutal invasion of a neighboring country.
Boo!
Yes I find myself agreeing with Biden and his gang of Rat criminals on this major issue, and opposing people who call themselves “conservatives” but approve of Putin’s mass murder. Life is full of surprises.
Russia is forcing a hidden mobilization. What does it mean for the future outcome of the war?
[Neo-Nazi soldiers in the Russian Army - evidence, photos]
https://youtu.be/lAzgyCEgHkw
On June 18th I posted the following posts.
NEZYGAR
The level of real irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has crossed all critical levels so much that the office of President Zelensky is forced to spend about €3.5 million daily to disavow these shocks among the population and the European audience.
€2 million goes to Euronews and smaller European media from Germany, France, Italy and Poland, €1 million goes to LOM and TG channels from the Baltics, the near-political establishment of Ukraine and the CIS countries, the rest is distributed to premiums and bonuses for functionaries of the 95th quarter.
According to MI6 data, which were handed over to the European Commissioners and European deputies, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amount to 176,000 killed and 41,000 seriously wounded on June 1, 22, without the possibility of returning to the theater, about 38,000 are considered missing.
According to the BND and the Polish intelligence services, which were shown at a closed briefing before the NATO summit, Ukraine’s losses in killed on the battlefield, plus the accompanying losses of civilians, exceeded 210 thousand people by 06/10/22.
According to NATO experts, as well as on the analysis of the NSA, which monitor social networks and special groups of mothers-wives-native Ukrainian soldiers, the losses range from 110 thousand to 197 thousand people, where the proportion of dead and missing is 45% to 55%.
The loss of military equipment and ammunition, as well as new types of weapons and unmanned aircraft, is 73%, and the shortage of fuel and lubricants has grown to 58% among BTGs on the front line of the line of contact.
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According to Nezygar about the losses of Ukraine, everything is 100% correct, even the dates, and the most interesting thing is that Ursula von der Leyen knew about this when she came to Kiev. Zelensky told her that he would consider the figure of 400-450 thousand people to be critical, and this will happen at the current level of losses no earlier than March 2023.
The BND and the NATO Ground Forces Command believe that by August 1, the level of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be more than 268,000, and the front line will pass through the Nikolaev and Kharkov regions, and this is without taking into account a possible strike by Belarusian forces from the north. If Lukashenka’s army is connected, the supply of theater of operations on the right side of the Dnieper will drop by 90-95%, moreover, the delivery of fuel and lubricants will become impossible for the civilian population and the harvesting campaign.
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Naturally there was no interest at all in this on FR. While I was shocked at these numbers I made clear that I had been following this Telegram site and they had always been accurate. And of course the follow up Telegram post from another site confirmed and added info to it.
Furthermore since the EU and NATO were about to have their meetings they would naturally get data prior to them and I knew Ursula Von der Crazy had just returned from her visit to Zelensky so the info on their conversation seemed plausible too.
Anyhow, here are two posts from entirely different posters today that pretty much confirm what I had previously posted though their info comes direct from the General Staff of Ukraine.
ZELENSKY IS SUBHUMAN!
Slavyangrad
⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦 - Zelensky was allegedly told in an analytical note that he lost 176,000 soldiers from Feb. 24 to July 11, 2022, submitted by the General Staff of Ukraine.
Eurasia & Multipolarity
From Vladimir Novikov - Leader of the Zaporozhye militia, commander of the special forces ‘Troy’ detachment;
So, according to the information received, the number of irretrievable loss of servicemen of the AFU, Border Troops, Ministry of Internal Affairs and National Guard Forces for the period from 24.02 till 11.07.2022 appears 176 000 in the calculations of the General Staff of Ukraine presented in the analytical note to President Zelensky.
It includes those killed, wounded without the possibility of further service and those missing without trace.
The report does not include losses of the territorial defence forces (why count them...)
Tallying the troops BBC journalists identify more than 3,000 Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine
7:54 am, May 31, 2022Source: BBC News Russian
Ukrainian President’s Office / SIPA / Scanpix / LETA
Using open sources, BBC News Russian has identified 3,052 Russian soldiers and officers killed in Ukraine since Moscow began its full-scale invasion on February 24.
The Russian BBC’s tally only includes those soldiers whose full names could be confirmed based on reports from regional leaders and local media. As regional officials and media outlets do not report the names of all the dead, the actual number of Russian military losses is believed to be significantly higher.
To get an idea of how many military fatalities were not included in their statistics, the Russian BBC studied data from 11 regional cemeteries, where Russian soldiers were buried after February 24.
For example, the journalists found that 42 Russian servicemen had been buried in a cemetery near Ulyanovsk since the start of the full-scale invasion. What’s more, half of the deceased were not named publicly — not even on social media. At other cemeteries, the Russian BBC found that the names of 30–100 percent of the recently buried servicemen had not been publicly reported.
Extrapolating from these statistics, the Russian BBC surmises that its list of reported deaths contains “at least 40–60 percent fewer names” than the actual number of servicemen laid to rest in Russia since the start of the full-scale war.
The Russian Defense Ministry has only reported on troop losses twice in the three months since Moscow began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The last official toll — 1,351 soldiers killed and 3,825 wounded — was reported on March 25.
Like BBC News Russian, the independent Russian outlet Mediazona has also used open data to calculate Russian troop losses in Ukraine. As of May 20, Mediazona had found 2,622 reported fatalities. Similarly, the Ukrainian Telegram channel Goryushko, which gathers open source reports of Russian soldiers’ deaths, had recorded 3,054 fatalities at the time of this writing.
On May 23, UK Defense Intelligence reported that Russia’s military death toll in Ukraine was likely comparable to the Soviet Union’s losses during its nine-year war in Afghanistan. According to official statistics, more than 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed or went missing during the Soviet-Afghan War. Ukraine’s estimates put Russia’s death toll even higher: at least 30,500 troops as of May 31.
Do any of you posting on this conflict know anything about what is really going on ? The more I see on here more it looks to me that the answer is no.
Hi, HIMARS! MLRS kicking effect of the new arms in Ukraine
https://youtu.be/y6q9RxjzfAc
“Cold Warroriors of days gone by”
You’ve got one thing right. Those days have gone by, quite some time ago. I have a suspicion many people that think (using the term loosely) the way you do are very, very, old and for whatever reason, have no idea what’s happening in today’s world. Not a clue.
Ukraine released name of Russian captain ordered to launch missiles on Vinnytsia. 144th day of war
https://youtu.be/CUX550ptSXs
Isn’t it funny that my delusions about world affairs are slaughtering and humiliating tens of thousands of your scumbag Russian heroes.
Who is denying reality?
From DAY ONE we have been fed nothing but propaganda and disinfo regarding Ukraine. I have been libeled as a Putin stooge constantly because I called attention to the lies. Most people don’t care. When one lie is exposed as blatant disinfo, they shrug it off and go on to the next. When this is allowed to play out after the midterms, many will still be so hyped up on the propaganda that they’ll be advocating starting the whole thing over again. What an unholy alliance, warmongering neocons stooging for the totalitarian globalists.
My parents are kind of like you. Just not as nasty. If they don’t see it on fox news then it didn’t happen. Or Yahoo News. Or Drudge. Everything else is propaganda and fake news and that’s final.
Dear old dad has been telling me he’s been trying to change his browser homepage from Yahoo to something else. He’s been working on this for at least ten years.
The US WANTED Russia to invade Ukraine. They could have unequivocally declared and guaranteed that Ukraine would never be a member of NATO. Alternatively, in the days before the invasion when the US was saying Russia was going to attack, the US could have moved some tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine. Russia would have been a lot more hesitant about crossing the border knowing it would mean a direct confrontation with US forces.
The US chose to do neither of those actions. They wanted Russia to attack, assuming they would get enough worldwide support for the resulting sanctions to destroy the Russian economy and lead to the overthrow of the Russian leadership. I wonder if Bolton had any input into the planning for this intended coup.
“There’s something wrong with people who keep looking at everything from the wonderful Russian point of view.”
Well... if you knew what you were talking about you would look at it tactically and probably come to a similar conclusion.
What’s unfortunate is that the president of the United States is/was too much of a dunderhead to go in there and have a conversation whereas I think the last president probably would have been over there post haste and having conversations.
That’s the frustrating part. And gross amounts to tax dollars are being funneled overseas... again.
Well said. We do not have “grownups in charge” at all. The “Ghost of Keeev” alone should have given the lie to most of this stuff. They literally bought into an NPC from a video game. That was my moment.
We are white Christian Merka fighting against the Godless communists! Ain’t we? Russia/Putin is Gog/Magog! or something! We can “hear the footsteps of our Lord and Savior as he approaches the doors of Heaven” or whatever sells books for Hal... What if “we” aren’t the good guys? We seem to promote our share of abominations with “our values” and so forth..
The Russians are still dead. And well deserved.
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