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To: Hojczyk

They were already mentally ill, that’ why they are on the drugs, there are plenty of teens and young men that the drugs are helping, sometimes though these kids are too sick for drugs to do any good.there is no easy solution.


4 posted on 07/06/2022 3:42:32 PM PDT by Striperman (Striperman)
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To: Striperman

🎯 Nothing has worked so far. Maybe it’s time we stopped looking for someone to blame and spend that energy finding a solution.


23 posted on 07/06/2022 4:09:22 PM PDT by M_Continuum
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To: Striperman

You say there is no easy solution for the problem kids on drugs... there’s always an easy solution, it’s just that people don’t want to take it for their own personal reasons.


24 posted on 07/06/2022 4:10:45 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: Striperman
They were already mentally ill, that’ why they are on the drugs

Maybe some are, but a lot of them are just "boys" and the woke teachers don't want to deal with them.

39 posted on 07/06/2022 4:59:45 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Striperman

Putting kids on drugs for depression is just plain wrong. Almost all of them could instead concentrate on getting sunshine on their skin or taking Vitamin D supplements. Vitamin D doesn’t cut off their emotions and is recognized by at least some researchers and doctors as the only effective treatment for clinical depression. That is anything from winter blues to what we used to call manic depression. I have seen the change D makes in several people including my daughter.


48 posted on 07/06/2022 5:46:08 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe y)
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To: Striperman

I agree. Mentally ill kids who end up committing these horrible crimes are almost always going to have a history of mental illness and incidents. Histories of mental illness will almost always result in attempted treatment. Attempted treatment is extremely likely to involve psychiatric mediations. These do have positive effects on many cases, and are more effective than alternatives; unfortunately, no sure thing, permanent remedies exist. But mental illness is a dynamic phenomenon. Meds can be discontinued; the physiology of the patient can change, rendering the prescription ineffective or harmful over time.

The relative success of psychiatric meds creates a societal problem by providing an excuse to cheap out on keeping a close watch on the patients. They’ve had “treatment”, and appear to be ok, so it stops being a public concern. Society pays attention AFTER something extreme has happened. Because all it takes for a disaster is a tiny fraction of cases to become hyper-violent, our “system” for dealing with this is guaranteed to fail. Family members, if any are even involved, have many motives not to be effective guardians of a young adult’s mental health issues. They don’t want to make life worse for their kids, and can be expected to get used to, or rationalize away (”it’s just his art...”), problem behavior an outsider would see as major warning signs. At worst, they can want to pretend the problem away for careerist reasons, like wanting to be mayor, or simple denial that their kid has a problem at all. Then there is the problem of kids aging out of their parents’ control.


49 posted on 07/06/2022 5:55:11 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Striperman

Millions of people got on anti-suicide drugs and we wound up with many more suicides. So, maybe it’s not working.


56 posted on 07/06/2022 7:31:15 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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