Posted on 06/25/2022 7:20:56 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
On Friday, when the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision establishing a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion, the three Democratic appointees — Justices Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor — wrote a forthright response casting the majority’s decision as a blow to women’s civil rights.
“With sorrow — for this Court, but more, for the many millions of American women who have today lost a fundamental constitutional protection — we dissent,” they wrote.
“Today, the Court … says that from the very moment of fertilization, a woman has no rights to speak of,” they continued. “A State can force her to bring a pregnancy to term, even at the steepest personal and familial costs.”
Citing laws that have already been passed in more conservative states and would now take effect, they warned of dire consequences in states that will now be free to ban abortion without exceptions for rape or incest, or when bringing a pregnancy to term risks the mother’s health.
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Choosing not to kill someone always turns out well, especially for the intended victim.
How do you feel about capital punishment?
Irrelevant. Only a depraved mind tries to link the two.
Just following right down your playbook with nary on original thought, huh?
You’re missing the point.
There are many here who believe that there is some kind of absolute right to life, and by extension would like to see a ‘right to life’ added to the Constitution. I don’t see how that could be done without addressing a whole host of ‘life’ issues.
And that is one of the reasons why there is NO ‘right to life’ enumerated in the Constitution.
In many states, women who are raped WILL have a choice.
There is no right to air, water, food, etc. Because forcefully depriving someone of those things falls under “murder”.
Every state has laws against it and they are even enforced in states that aren’t run by people like you.
Yes, STATES.
And now the issue of abortion has been returned to the States where it always should have been. The States will come to their individual decisions about every aspect of it. I suspect that even some States that prohibit abortion in many instances will still have some exceptions, including for rape.
You are perfectly free to exercise your right to vote and influence your State Legislature. But there will be many who will disagree with you.
(If you’ll recall, this conversation began because of my personal reservations about prohibiting abortion in cases of rape. I respect that you have to live by your personal conscience, just as I have to live by mine.)
The whole due process concerning “right to life” (Which is enumerated) in the 14th must escape your mind.
Covers both the abortion and capital punishment canard.
Obviously the current Court didn’t think so. I’m pretty sure they know the 14th and its context - in fact, it was used to argue FOR Roe itself.
But - bring a case! and see what they say.
You are the one who said “right to life” is not in the Constitution (Enumerated in the 14th, lol) and the canard equating abortion and capital punishment (False equivalencies btw). That is what i am responding to.
My point was that capital punishment is the taking of life, and is allowed to the States *With Due Process*.
If you want the preborn to be recognized as full-fledged citizens entitled to due process (instead of ‘potential life’, as arguments in Roe characterized it and most States recognize it) and abortion outlawed in general, you will have to bring a case. Failing that, the option is to try and have the Constitution changed.
I am against elective abortion, but see the need for allowances in rape and mother’s health. There are instances in many peoples’ lives where the only choices are among evils. The ‘life’ of the collective polity is no different.
(I am also against capital punishment and find it as horrible as abortion, but recognize that the States are handling that in their individual ways, too.)
Mother's life, an honest medical procedure/decision that happens rarely in this day and age concerning pregnancies in general. There would be due process from a medical standpoint.
LEO action is only brought in if the woman reports. Even if she goes to the ER and the issue comes up, she can refuse to press charges.
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