[centermass_socrates]

So in another words you've got no response that applies to the problem at hand.

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Oh, but I do. Our nation needs to turn back to God and stop killing babies. The “problem at hand” is that we, as a nation have slaughtered more babies than Hitler's genocide in WW2, and that God will judge our nation because of it. Your “pragmatic” approach is what Hitler used to murder those “problem at hand” Jews. Abortion is murder and it is being used as a final solution for those “problem at hand” inconvenient babies. God's judgment isn't and never will be swayed by pragmatic humanism.

[BlackAdderess]

Well, we live in a country with representative government, not a theocracy.

[boxlunch]

Wonderful reply! The pragmatic approach also led to the Dred Scott decision. When you use money, polls, popularity, desire for political power or anything else to decide a ***moral*** question, great evil can result.