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Severodonetsk: Ukrainian forces told to retreat from key eastern city
BBC ^ | 6/24/22 | BBC

Posted on 06/24/2022 5:02:37 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: dforest

You said they are peaceful. They aren’t.


121 posted on 06/24/2022 8:49:11 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Its All Over Except ...
You don't need to tell me that, I know.

Biden and all those cheering the demise of Russia bla bla bla don't realize that it's “us” that is fu#$ed also.

Gas and oil shocks right at the tail end of the Covid upset (screwing with the Saudis and Russians while doing everything possible to restrict domestic production), massive government social spending, then massive war spending, pissing off folks that are turning around and dumping the dollar. Then some geniuses here talk about how Putin will be assassinated in 2 years, that the Ruble will be worthless soon... Not sure what planet these folks live on, but the empty shelves are here, the inflation is here, and the signs of a recession are here... We're in trouble, and these are just the beginning signs.

Just wait a few more months. The economic slowdown is happening already... Wait until winter when the need for energy increases. Wait until the supply chains deplete and the full effect of fertilizer, wheat and other food shortfalls on a global scale become more than just some philosophic idea.

Biden is a power hungry old fart that wanted to finally be the “big guy.” This senile old fool has led us from near unprecedented prosperity and peace under Trump into economic ruin and a proxy war with Russia...

Realize, even all this Covid idiocy was Biden and the Democrats playing politics in an election year. They were the ones pushing for the lock-downs, social distancing, etc. He has caused allied nations to be under enormous pressure as they face long term internal instability from food and energy shortages may that be our allies in Europe or India, Pakistan, Egypt... He screwed up Afghanistan, not because we left, but how we left (in haste in order to meet a political time line). He has taken a nation of 41 million that was prosperous and climbing and turned them into a basket case with millions displaced, a crippled economy, and insecurity/instability, Ukraine.

The US is in a nose dive right now and we're taking a bunch of folks with us.

These are the people running the show:

https://youtu.be/oqiOeiG4VNo

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/08/16/jake-sullivan-kabul-afghanistan-sciutto-nr-vpx.cnn

Geniuses like Buttigieg...

You have a guy at the top that isn't right in the head, and under him a bunch of political hacks (Milley, Garland...) or children that are trying out what they learned in college but have no practical experience in.

On the current trajectory nothing good can come. Are we changing course regards fossil fuels? Nope. Are we changing course regards antagonizing Russia? Nope. Are we changing course regards getting raped by China (unfair trade and IP theft)? Nope. Are we fixing the S. border? Nope. Are we changing course regards new taxes on CO2, more government regulations? Nope.

Things aren't going well, right?

Now name me one course correction we're making?

This fool of a President, and his court of jesters, are going to run us into the ground.

Forget Putin. It's our own leadership that is taking us down.

122 posted on 06/24/2022 9:38:14 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Bulwyf
They’ve been systematically murdered and raped for years.

The people of the Donbas have, by the Bandera nazi scum.

Now FO back to Europe and leave the Americans out of it.

123 posted on 06/24/2022 10:29:15 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: JonPreston
Joe Biden has announced the US will send advanced missile systems to Ukraine. The new weapon is the Himars multiple launch rocket system, or MLRS: a mobile unit that can simultaneously launch multiple precision-guided missiles. Both Ukraine and Russia already operate MLRS, but Himars has superior range and precision. Jun 2, 2022

Boy, I had high hopes that this system was going to be the final nail in the coffin for the Ruskies. What's going on?

124 posted on 06/24/2022 10:33:54 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Biden is a kleptocrat (he just can't pronounce it) )
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To: Poison Pill

Looks like Mother Russia got a new child to raise, one with rich oil gas and coal reserves—even if its a problem child who likes to hang around with the wrong sort of friends. A little ear twisting and that child will be brought back in line. Ukraine should go to the peace table before they lose Odessa and their window on the black sea. Make the best deal possible while they still have an army left. Peace is the best they can get and funds to re-build. As Russia incorporates the “New Territories” (really old ones) back into the Federation. Look to see a big party for the Victorious Russian Army in Moscow and Putin driving around in an American Made Vehicle captured in battle. For Russians, Victory is Peace (maybe spelled piece).


125 posted on 06/24/2022 10:58:58 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Poison Pill

That isn’t what I said. I said they were pretty peaceful until your President Biden was installed.

The Ukes were not peaceful because they allowed the attacks by Azovs and Nazis on the Donbas all the time backed by your Presidents like Biden in order to provoke war with Russia.


126 posted on 06/24/2022 11:08:01 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: WoofDog123

Yes.


127 posted on 06/24/2022 11:21:37 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: JonPreston

A little tune for the Ukraine troops. LOL

https://youtu.be/IkMFLUXTEwM?t=21


128 posted on 06/24/2022 12:28:56 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: dforest
That isn't what I said. I said they were pretty peaceful until your President Biden was installed.

No. They were not pretty peaceful up until then. From 1991 until January 19, 2019, Russia was in 13 wars, invaded 2 sovereign nations and stole one election. That's not "pretty peaceful" behavior.

129 posted on 06/24/2022 12:39:05 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Cathi
Clearly, they waited too long due to the ongoing struggle between Zelensky who has insisted troops stay and fight in order to create the desired narrative and General Z who has desperately been trying to get permission to pull troops out before they are decimated.

Zelensky motivated the Ukranian people to fight. When the war broke out, we were not sure whether that's was going to happen.

130 posted on 06/24/2022 12:43:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: PIF

The Kiev faint was a brilliant operation that prevented the Nazis from moving resources to the South and resulted in quick and bloodless liberation of the entire South “landbridge”.

It will go into the textbooks.

And surely the forces of the light took some losses, but fewer than the Nazis suffered only today in only the Gorskoe liberation.


131 posted on 06/24/2022 1:55:13 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr

bloodless liberation of the entire South “landbridge”.


How quickly Mariupol’ is “forgotten” ...


132 posted on 06/24/2022 2:34:59 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: mac_truck

We know, yet the west seems intent on wanting to drag us into war.


133 posted on 06/24/2022 4:19:21 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: PIF

How quickly Mariupol’ is “forgotten” ...


Not forgotten. Mariupol (as well as Volnovaha) had the Ukrainian strike force preparing to invade DNR. It is that 15k of the best forces that were eliminated. This will go into the textbooks too, Russian forces were numerically inferior!

Mariupol did not receive any reinforcements. Other parts of the “bridge” did not have such units and having no reinforcement meant no troops to resist the Russians. This is what Kiev’s “attack” did.

The other part of the regular Uke army is currently being eliminated in the Donbass.


134 posted on 06/24/2022 4:33:54 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr

Well Mr. Orc-loving troll, “The Kiev faint was a brilliant operation that prevented the Nazis from moving resources to the South and resulted in quick and bloodless liberation of the entire South “landbridge”.”

Mariupol’ is on the south and hundreds of civilians were murdered - this involves blood. The murderous Orc’s ‘conquest’ of the South “landbridge” was hardly bloodless.

You best go back to your FSB masters and ask to be duly punished. Preferably something that involves terrible pain over time.


135 posted on 06/25/2022 1:46:14 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Well, my dear globalist plant:

the victims in Donbass are entirely the achievement of the Demented Usurper and his supporters, he planned this in his insane drive for the continuing 10%. It is odd to see one supporting this madness unless one is equally paid for this.


136 posted on 06/25/2022 8:16:13 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr

Well, my dear globalist plant:

the victims in Donbass are entirely the achievement of the Demented Usurper and his supporters, he planned this in his insane drive for the continuing 10%. It is odd to see one supporting this madness unless one is equally paid for this.


The “demented usurper” spent all of 2021 denying Ukraine military aid requests while using Putin to broker a new Iran deal. Now “globalists” pump millions of euros daily into Russia’s war economy. Those are the facts but feel free to live in a fantasy Putinist world if you wish.


137 posted on 06/25/2022 12:38:24 PM PDT by lodi90
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