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NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ASSOCIATION, INC., ET AL. v. BRUEN, SUPERINTENDENT OF NEW YORK STATE POLICE, ET AL.
SCOTUS ^ | 6/23/22 | Clarence Thomas

Posted on 06/23/2022 7:41:59 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

Ruling in favor of guns outside the home, big win for the 2nd amendment

(Excerpt) Read more at supremecourt.gov ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
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To: WASCWatch

True, but the holding in the case is case fact-specific. This decision applies strike down the “special need” requirement that has been present in NYC. The precedent can only be applied in any other jurisdiction that has the same onerous requirement as the NYC law. Whether or not the other jurisdiction’s law has an equivalent “onerous” requirement will be up to lower courts first.


101 posted on 06/23/2022 8:59:48 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: 1Old Pro
This should also flow over to the west coast? Or are they already considered a foreign country?
102 posted on 06/23/2022 9:01:59 AM PDT by Lockbar (Hate has no home in my house. It just rents space in my attic.)
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To: jpp113

Well, they say Rome wasn’t built ina day.

We’ll hopefully see lower courts push similar rulings up to the SCOTUS so the 2nd can be further followed.

Keep voting MAGA; don’t let democrats win.


103 posted on 06/23/2022 9:02:08 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Lockbar

I think 101 describes it.


104 posted on 06/23/2022 9:03:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: RandallFlagg

He didn’t leave out any detail.


105 posted on 06/23/2022 9:08:37 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Rusty0604
He didn’t leave out any detail.

And his details had nothing to do with law abiding Americans carrying guns for self defense.
Alito pretty much nuked his lengthy dissent.
106 posted on 06/23/2022 9:11:24 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: hanamizu
But it could be considered to be a “tax” on what is,very clearly,an activity *specifically* guaranteed by the Constitution. Perhaps next there’ll be a tax on us every time we post something to FR...or even sign onto it.
107 posted on 06/23/2022 9:15:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: frogjerk

I haven’t read all of it yet, so thanks for posting. It’s amazing that 3 Supreme Court Justices couldn’t come up with any better reasons than statistics that have no bearing on the issue. Foolish gibberish.


108 posted on 06/23/2022 9:17:41 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: RandallFlagg
One observation: the Founding Fathers weren't thinking of hunters,or even personal self defense,when they agreed on the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment was meant to give us the ability to protect ourselves from despots like George III...or The Big Guy.
109 posted on 06/23/2022 9:19:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: Gay State Conservative

A great quote from the book Unintended Consequences from the character Henry Bowman:

“The Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights is not about duck hunting, any more than the First Amendment is about playing Scrabble. The entire Bill of Rights is about individual freedom”


110 posted on 06/23/2022 9:22:34 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: Erik Latranyi; Cboldt

Feds: Ex-NYPD officers took cash, prostitutes in gun license bribe scandal

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/feds-ex-nypd-officers-took-cash-parties-prostitutes-in-gun-license-bribe-scandal/#app


111 posted on 06/23/2022 9:23:54 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: eyeamok

“It sounds like they just eliminated the need for a CCW permit for the 25 states that still required them”

I suspect not, but it probably turns every state into a “shall issue” state.


112 posted on 06/23/2022 9:26:49 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: 1Old Pro
Great day for our constitution.

Great day for the New Yorkers. Born the and lived there in Western New York State, one a child growing up was firmly indoctrinated that it was forbidden to even own a handgun without a permit for it.

The two kinds that I recall were (1) a premises permit, only for a particular pistol and for its serial number only, that had to be kept in your home or in your business approved for it alone.

To get the second kind to carry a handgun outside the home, and only that one for which the serial number was listed on your permit, you had to give the judge granting the permit an exact reason for it that convinced him/her.

Hardly anyone I knew had such a permit, one that could be rescinded and the firearm confiscated at any time. And if you did have either kind of permit, you did not thlk about it at all.

On the other hand, from the age of about 14 on up, one could go into any store that sold guns and ammunition and buy, and carry away, any long gun without hindrance, especially in smaller villages in which a teenager possessing a rifle or shotgun was not uncommon at all, and that so much so that it wasn't worth discussing.

That has changed. The overwhelming influence of gun-ignorant city people has recently initiated a surplus of legal restrictions that required even the hunter or farmer to undergo background check to buy even a long gun, and that above a certain age, I believe; certainly not for any resident of another state presenting him/her sewlf at the point of sale.

Going back and investigating the laws in effect during and prior to the 1950s might show some inconsistencies in what I said above, but not much. I believe that the strictures of law were passed in the days of the prohibition when the gang wars predominant in the large cities were spilling over somewhat into the suburban and rural counties.

All in all, the lack of separation of the five boroughs of New York City as a separate political entity, a separate state, has condemned the rest of the usually morally and geographically superior portions of the state to live under rules fit only for those criminally-inclined residential areas included within the City's borders.

We find Illinois and California residents of the siburban and rural geographical areas suffering likewise.

But born and raised as a New Yorker, considering that as my home, I rejoice in the reassertion of Constitutional rights that presided prior to the Prohibition/Jazz Age when these restrictions were unlawfully instituted but not effectively rejected on the basis of the principle involved rather than by the whimsical illogic of a predominance of Constitutionally-ignorant liberal legislators.

113 posted on 06/23/2022 9:30:58 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: 1Old Pro

Fantastic. I do find it interesting that every MSM report references recent “mass shootings” but fails to note that the permit requirements would not have prevented any of these crimes. Psychopathic criminals generally do not use handguns and don’t care about permits


114 posted on 06/23/2022 9:35:14 AM PDT by KingofZion
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To: 1Old Pro

What do we call this one in ShortSpeak, so that we can recite “Heller, MacDonald, and _______”?

Bruen?


115 posted on 06/23/2022 9:35:38 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: apillar

Yes, as I read it this means “may issue” laws are unconstitutional all across the fruited plain.


116 posted on 06/23/2022 10:13:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: jpp113

California has. When I lived there, I just decided to ignore it.


117 posted on 06/23/2022 10:17:33 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Poser

Thomas just stopped short of reciprocity for CCW holders


118 posted on 06/23/2022 10:20:08 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: ExGeeEye

yes


119 posted on 06/23/2022 10:29:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: imardmd1
I rejoice in the reassertion of Constitutional rights that presided prior to the Prohibition/Jazz Age when these restrictions were unlawfully instituted but not effectively rejected on the basis of the principle involved rather than by the whimsical illogic of a predominance of Constitutionally-ignorant liberal legislators

Yep, this was an OLD law.

120 posted on 06/23/2022 10:30:05 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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