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Arizona police union says Tempe cops who refused to dive into lake to save drowning man were following their training
Insider ^ | June 7, 2022 | Natalie Musumeci

Posted on 06/07/2022 10:37:52 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

The Tempe, Arizona, cops who refused to rescue a drowning man were following their training, a local police union said.

Members of the Tempe Police Department receive "no training in water rescues," the union said.

Sean Bickings, 34, died on May 28 after he jumped into a lake and drowned while police stood by.

The Tempe, Arizona, cops who refused to rescue a man drowning in an area lake were following their training by not jumping in to save him, according to the local police union.

Members of the Tempe Police Department receive "no training in water rescues" and do not have "equipment to help people at risk of drowning," the Tempe Officers Association — which represents officers of the Tempe police force — said in a statement to Insider on Tuesday.

"Attempting such a high-risk rescue could easily result in the death of the person in the water and the officer, who could be pulled down by a struggling adult," the union said. "Officers are trained to call the Fire Department and/or get the Tempe Police boat. That is what officers did here."

Three Tempe police officers have been put on paid leave as the department investigates their response to the May 28 drowning of 34-year-old Sean Bickings.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: avasttherelandlubber; cops; donutwatch; drowning; police
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

This cop, that police department, and cops in general are going to increasingly be living with the bad reputation that they don’t care, that they have no obligation to respond, and then they will even taunt and watch somebody die. This is not her parents cops, these are militarized people that would rather stand outside of school and listen to kids being shot and killed, watch people drown, and do nothing. Regardless of the union defense, which is purely knee-jerk, this cop should be fired.


21 posted on 06/07/2022 10:51:55 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I think in this case the cops inaction is justified, I went thru lifeguard training 50 years ago


I went through junior life saving a some years before you and the first rule was make sure your own life is not in danger attempting to save another’s.


22 posted on 06/07/2022 10:52:12 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: MercyFlush

Yeah I said that because yesterday on a thread about this there were several “cops are useless” comments.

Obviously ignorant of how dangerous a drowning rescue can be.


23 posted on 06/07/2022 10:53:07 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Totally agree, watch the clip, no way anyone could have saved that jumper, especially a cop in full uniform.

It would take a safety diver, in full dive suit, standing at waters edge, when the guy jumped, to go fish him out, before he went under.

Sad story, but damn, don’t blame the cops...


24 posted on 06/07/2022 10:53:18 AM PDT by pacificus
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To: DoodleDawg

How many jobs do you expect a cop to do?


25 posted on 06/07/2022 10:53:57 AM PDT by 98charlie
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

In one of the Dirty Harry movies our favorite cop goes up on a fire department boom ladder to talk to a jumper.
I’ve got no intention of trying to stop you from jumping. Just explaining that you are going to make a hell of a mess when you hit the ground.
I miss those good movies once made in hollyweird!
Cop not required to rescue a suicidal future drowning victim.


26 posted on 06/07/2022 10:54:08 AM PDT by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: Brian Griffin

Carry a life preserver in the trunk of a cop car IN PHOENIX AZ? Anyone who drowns in Phoenix WORKS at it!


27 posted on 06/07/2022 10:54:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: MercyFlush

And on this thread also.

SMH


28 posted on 06/07/2022 10:54:46 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: T.B. Yoits

SWIMMING must not be part of their training. I guess when you live in the desert, the ability to swim is a low priority.


29 posted on 06/07/2022 10:54:58 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Brian Griffin

In Arizona ?LOL


30 posted on 06/07/2022 10:55:52 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: V_TWIN
The LEOs told him not to get in the water and he did it anyway. What is it with blacks refusing to comply with police directions?...especially if the cop(s) are white.

They're trying to portray all cops as Texas chickens.

31 posted on 06/07/2022 10:57:09 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“he sleeps with the fishes”


32 posted on 06/07/2022 10:58:24 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It may be possible that none of the involved police officers were good swimmers. And recall that there’s probably no swim test at police academies. I guess all we need now is for the media to report - truthfully or falsely, they don’t really care - that the drowner was black.


33 posted on 06/07/2022 10:59:11 AM PDT by DPMD ( )
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To: airdalechief

You obviously have no lifesaving training.

CC


34 posted on 06/07/2022 11:00:09 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: rdcbn1

Btw, I’m in AZ and have no less than 7 beautiful lakes within about 20 miles of my hideout, 3 of those are within about 7 miles.

In places like S.CA, I had to drive about 100 miles just to get to a decent lake.


35 posted on 06/07/2022 11:00:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DoodleDawg

Why? How about free swimming lessons for citizens, or - and this is the leftist’s favorite fallback plan - ban swimming in those lakes? Always the cops, who usually perform no fewer than six or seven professions while being paid, and not commensurately, for one.


36 posted on 06/07/2022 11:01:00 AM PDT by DPMD ( )
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To: V_TWIN

“1. The LEOs told him not to get in the water and he did it anyway. “

Article: The Tempe Officers Association noted in its statement that the cops’ exchange with Bickings “was largely cordial prior to Mr. Bickings’ entering the lake” and said he had been “free to go at any time.”


37 posted on 06/07/2022 11:02:28 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Too bad they could not throw him a rope to pull him out to safety.


38 posted on 06/07/2022 11:02:39 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Brian Griffin

No...since they already have so few items to carry on their duty belts, just add a Mae West to the mix, and make it a felony not to jump in.


39 posted on 06/07/2022 11:02:43 AM PDT by DPMD ( )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Are life guards trained in law enforcement? Trained how to subdue and handcuff a perp in the water?

Do tasers work in water? without shocking the holder too?

Then again, it might be a job for a police dog:

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/bernese-mountain-dog-rescues-swimmers-in-riptide/

40 posted on 06/07/2022 11:03:40 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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