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IS Ukraine LOSING the war in Donbas? Defenders fall back to avoid capture as Russians advance after blasting towns to wastelands.... (40 photos)
FOR MAILONLINE ^ | 28 May 2022 | DAN SALES and CHRIS MATTHEWS

Posted on 05/28/2022 5:09:53 AM PDT by dennisw

IS Ukraine LOSING the war in Donbas? Defenders fall back to avoid capture as Russians advance after blasting towns to wastelands while Boris Johnson offers fresh support to Ukrainian president Zelensky Withdrawal from the Luhansk region likely, admits Ukraine in new war blow

Area is hugely significant and one of main aims of Putin and Russia's invasion President Zelensky said Ukraine was protecting Luhansk as best it could Putin had launched invasion under the aims of capturing Luhansk and Donetsk Boris Johnson offered renewed support for Ukraine in a phone call with Zelensky

Ukraine has admitted it may have to retreat from its last post in the Luhansk region as Russian forces continue their relentless march.

Putin's forces - now into their fourth month of the invasion - have concentrated on the east of the country in recent weeks.

Ukrainian soldiers leaving Luhansk will be a blow to the country, due to its symbolic significance in the war.

This morning Boris Johnson offered fresh support to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Zelensky said they spoke on the phone about 'strengthening defence support for Ukraine, intensifying work on security guarantees and supplying fuel'.

He added: 'We must work together to prevent a food crisis and unblock Ukrainian ports.'

Putin wants both Luhansk and Donetsk regions in full and their capture was one of his earliest objectives in the deranged despot's so-called 'special military operation'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: BobL

The rainbow flag is indeed at “half mast” today.


141 posted on 05/28/2022 8:22:46 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Grey182

Hey pal - NSA in my time never did any such thing as propaganda. We risked out lives to keep your fathers alive, so you could be born.


142 posted on 05/28/2022 8:31:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: dforest

Truth hurts, so you lash out with smears of good people.

Yep you supporters of genocide are very good people like your FSB handlers and the Orc troops you so much admire. Smeared with facts, but of course not ones you’d ever believe living in your mommy’s basement.


143 posted on 05/28/2022 8:34:40 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: adorno

It’s not really so much about poverty as it is demographics and a dwindling population.

Russia has one of the lowest birthrates in the world. The population of ethnic Russians among Russia as a country is even worse. Chechyans breed like flies, as do the various Eastern, Northern and Siberian peoples, but ethnic Russians will be replaced by other peoples by 2100.


144 posted on 05/28/2022 8:35:17 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Rural_Michigan

I just don’t care. It had no impact on our way of life until the globalists made it so. F them and f the Ukie fanboys.

No, of course not, no impact at all on you - just no Neon to make computer chips, no grain and sunflower oil to feed people, no fertilizer for US farmers. No to mention disastrous diesel and gasoline prices.

Heck, no sweat off yours, if millions starve, while Russians abduct 180,000 children and are in official violation of Article 2 & 3 of the Convention on Genocide. Nope, not your problem. And one has to imagine you either have hosts of problems or just escaped from a fantasy or a Meta game universe


145 posted on 05/28/2022 8:41:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: dennisw

Current reporting is that Ukranian counter attacks recovered the territory and control of the strategic road.

Further, a very large Russian Ammo dump was destroyed that surely had some effect on the ability of the Russians to progress


146 posted on 05/28/2022 8:46:48 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: McGruff
We understand your concern for the Russians, like this journalist and his friend, who are Neo-Nazis. That's who is providing the reporting the pro-Russian crew adores.


147 posted on 05/28/2022 8:53:58 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: adorno
Russia being a poor country, won’t be able to hold on to whatever territories it captures.

Russia is steadily destroying its ability to even defend its own borders. It turns out that their high tech military equipment depends on parts from US and European vendors. Their tanks use French thermal sights. They use US made integrated circuits for their military electronics.

Here is an article with pictures of PC boards from Russian helicopters, missiles, and other arms full of US made integrated circuits.

As sanctions tighten the Russians won't even be able to repair their helicopters, airplanes and missiles.

148 posted on 05/28/2022 8:59:28 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: wastedyears
"Patriots" don't bomb their own countrymen for years, which is what the Ukrainian government did to the Donbas region since 2014, after the hussein-sponsored coup.

Yes, the Russians are now displaying so much more restraint in the Donbas!

/mordant sarcasm

Regards,

149 posted on 05/28/2022 8:59:52 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: dennisw

There is a tendency for media and people to take a short view, to see recent results mean surely the whole war will be won lost.

But it often isn’t so.

Ukraine is facing a terrible situation for the next month or so. Their forces east of Bakhmut are in a fairly terrible situation, especially Severodonetsk. Some analyst think they should have withdrawn west earlier.

The thing is that this situation for one month, and for forces East of the river near Bakhmut, might not hold for the rest of the war.

How effective will the coming western weapons be?
How will Ukraine (and Russia’s) will to fight be in a month?

People pretend to know but they don’t


150 posted on 05/28/2022 9:02:15 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Gaffer
I’m just not on board with hopelessly entangling this country in a war that is not ours...

That's fine, most conservatives don't want to have US troops fighting anywhere. But repeating Russian propaganda is not an appropriate way to argue for a US political decision.

Plenty of people were opposed to the US mission in Iraq, but they didn't sit around posting ISIS and Al Qaeda propaganda.

151 posted on 05/28/2022 9:02:34 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: dennisw
Now, even the Daily Mail is finally conceding the obvious.

How many fools here bought the Biden regime narrative that Ukraine was winning. They have a lot of explaining to do.

152 posted on 05/28/2022 9:04:34 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The military situation in Ukraine, as seen by an ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence

Why don't you put a more accurate description - the military situation in Ukraine as seen by a Russian asset repeating Russian propaganda talking points.

153 posted on 05/28/2022 9:05:53 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL
Correct, the liberation of Luhansk is nearly completed.

Didn't you mean the destruction of Luhansk?

Shelling towns into rubble and driving out their inhabitants doesn't seem like "liberation" to me. Maybe that word translates differently in Moscow.

154 posted on 05/28/2022 9:07:34 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: dennisw

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155 posted on 05/28/2022 9:08:06 AM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: dennisw
I AM thrilled. The "new world order' and globalism IS CRUMBLING before our very eyes. EAT IT!

Globalism puts America last. It's run by those at the WEC, including George Soroes.

This war has, from the start, been about globalism/neoconism vs. nationalism. Anyone not seeing that is either lying or has his or her head in their ass.

This whole was one of our making going back to the Maidan revolution. The goal of Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken was to use Ukraine to harm Russia. They and their puppet masters wanted to cause a regime change in Russia and turn it into the same kind of moneymaking operation for our political elite Ukraine has become.

Good riddance to the globalism and the new world order.

156 posted on 05/28/2022 9:09:14 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: PIF

My father was in Counter-Intelligence before you were, pal.

Perhaps, I should have put a comma between NSA and propagandist.


157 posted on 05/28/2022 9:13:14 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: BobL
Look, these people's apartments are finally liberated! They must be jumping for joy next to the graves of their family members. And thrilled that everything they owned was destroyed in an instant by a Russian artillery barrage. Newly "liberated" Popasna, where Russians are protecting their fellow Russian speaking brothers and sisters by killing them and destroying everything they had.


158 posted on 05/28/2022 9:13:28 AM PDT by freeandfreezing (Do I need the sarcasm tag?)
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To: freeandfreezing

“Shelling towns into rubble and driving out their inhabitants doesn’t seem like “liberation” to me.”

The condition of the towns/cities is up to the Ukrainians. If they choose to fight, rather than retreat, then yes, shelling is necessary to make it safe for liberation.


159 posted on 05/28/2022 9:13:38 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
What do think the US would do?

Not believe a ridiculous scenario dreamed up in some Russian propaganda office.

160 posted on 05/28/2022 9:14:54 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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