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Not sure what this one is TX State Trooper? End of video shows a few State Trooper SUVs
Posted on 05/27/2022 6:32:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws
Exactly my thought. Schools have doors, find a steel one, knock out the pins, and you have an improvised ballistic shield. What they lacked was brains. Or balls. Or both.
> And there is a big difference between being brave and being stupid. <
I would argue that being brave involves at least a little bit of what we might call stupidity. For it is kinda stupid to jump off of a boat right in front of a Nazi machine gun nest. Yet many men did just that on D-Day.
I don’t mean to be preachy here. But we expect our fire fighters, our police officers, and our soldiers to take great risks on occasion. It’s the nature of the job.
Not much, this is just an excuse.
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Not sure what this one is TX State Trooper? End of video shows a few State Trooper SUVs
I honestly felt bad for the guy holding that news conference yesterday. You know he wanted to dump all over the local cops—he knew the answers to the questions being asked. But one cop is not going to call another cop a coward.
It is important to understand that every word coming out of their mouths right now is geared towards minimizing the civil litigation that is coming.
When the truth comes out, the fall out is going to be expensive, and very embarrassing.
I the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting...when I was an active muni police officer...every sworn officer, from the chief, on down, received training in response, following either Federal and/or State- mandated, to active shooting in a school.
The gist of the message was this:
‘If you are the first officer on the call, YOU SHALL IMMEDIATELY ENTER THE BUILDING AND KILL THE ACTIVE SHOOTER. YOU SHALL NOT WAIT FOR BACKUP. STATISTICS SHOW, WHEN CONFRONTED WITH DEADLY FORCE, THE SHOOTER WILL EITHER KILL HIM OF HERSELF, GIVE UP, OR BE NEUTRALIZED BE YOU, THE FIRST AND ONLY OFFICER.
Following the strong message was this personal message from the armorer and training sergeant:
“If your’re not going to enter that school and do you duty, TAKE YOUR BADGE OFF AND RESIGN IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE.”
So why the clusterfuck at this recent shooting? What kind of man or woman with a badge and a vow would dither and delay in that situation?
This is crushing me. Whoever the first officer on the scene was, I pity than cop.
Very well put. I’ll second that motion.
From what I’ve seen if it wasn’t for the CBP going full medieval on the punk there were going to be many many more victims.
Start with the rooms he's not in; evacuate the teachers and children to a safer area while a sniper sets up outside the classroom.
Heroine Angeli Rose Gomez drove 40 miles to the school, got handcuffed and then released, jumped a fence, ran into the school, grabbed her two children and got them out.
She proved she didn't need specialized training, a firearm, body armor, a ballistic shield, "intel", nor a tacti-clown team. The other law enforcement who got their own children out proved the same.
Just because you are a coward doesn’t mean that men like the ones who stormed the beaches of Iwo Jima and Normandy are all dead. I know that there are brave men and women still out there. One woman jumped the fence and rescued her own daughter, not knowing who or what she might encounter.
There was a ‘stand down’ order from on top.
This is a week or so before the NRA convention in Texas where Trump is to speak.
Ramos was arrested 4 years ago threatening to do this very act yet as still able to buy three guns - while listed his address as his grandparents (the grandfather was a felon prohibited from owning guns).
All by design.
Oh, and 18 minutes are now ‘missing’ from the police radio recording archive for that day (some NSFW language used):
https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/1529710536169910272
These folks are ‘in it to win it’ and don’t care who dies in the process.
This si the American side of the border version of Fast & Furious.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4066632/posts
Woman armed with a pistol shoots and kills a shooter who had an AR-15 and was shooting into a crowd.
And thank you for your service.
Level IV ballistic shields cost from $500 to $5000, so will we see every school buy one and store it in a secure location outside the building? Because how many hostage situations will not require one?
From a thousand miles away, it looks like this community, its school system and police agencies were totally unprepared for this disaster which, by the way, was the work of the devil.
Now the lives of hundreds in this small community have been devastated forever. This is about as bad as it gets short of a nuclear exchange.
Every community has to get better training and tactics for such an event. Some communities have a good start already; in other communities liberals are opposed to school safety, or think school safety is just free condoms.
Every policeman needs to have an honest conversation with himself and ask: Do I have what it takes to be in this line of very dangerous work? There is no shame in leaving the force and pursuing a different career.
Easier to look at this as an op.
Look at where things were efficient:
1. 18 year old in a truck eluded BP agents
2. Conducted a running gun battle for 12 minutes completely exposed in an area ADJACENT to a school.
3. School, not locked down, is where the shooter holes up.
4. Single story, lots of windows.
5. Nine person SWAT team with no ballistic shield, no FLIR scopes, has no idea how to bead in on the shooter and take him down once he’s in the unlocked-down school.
6. Federal Marshals arrive on scene. Cops on scene have evacuated their own children safely at this point.
7. On scene LEOs effectively stop parents from evacuating their kids (completely unarmed women and men, by the way, and one woman figured out how to slip the LEOs and get it done - good job LEOs! Couldn’t stop an unarmed woman from getting in the school)
8. BP Agent who obviously had not been read-in gets in and kills the 18 year old transgender kid after 90 minutes, a car chase, a 12 minute running gun battle.
9. 18 minutes of 911 tape is missing.
That is an op. That is not incompetence.
Bullshit.
“Excuses”
The “supervisor” had sufficient authority to call a ‘hold’ not only on local LEO, but on federal officers from multiple agencies.
Short list, eh?
I have zero expertise in any of this, but it would seem there were other things they could have done. The ballistic shield method can’t be the only way to handle a situation like this. And, if it is, then every department should have it readily available. It’s easy to make comments, but I just find it hard to believe there was no other way to respond.
Or had them in a vise.
It will prove interesting to see what happens once someone within CBP goes public with the cold, hard truth (probably at the expense of their career and, possibly, their pension).
The narrative on this changes so fast it makes one’s head spin.
This morning it was reported that the BP agent drove 40 miles to the school to kill the fiend.
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