Posted on 05/26/2022 6:51:59 AM PDT by TigerClaws
Shocking new video has emerged showing Texas cops restraining parents as they tried to rescue their kids on Tuesday after a gunman unleashed terror inside the elementary school, as questions grow over why it took so long to get to the shooter after the first 911 call.
Salvador Ramos, 18, arrived at the school in Uvalde at 11.30am, crashing his car into a ditch.
A school resource officer was at the scene but he failed to stop him from making his way inside.
Two other cops also rushed to the school at that time - Ramos had just shot his grandmother in the face at their home less than five miles away. She survived and called the police.
When they arrived, Ramos is said to have shot at them then ran into the school, where he barricaded himself in the fourth grade classroom and shot 19 kids and two teachers dead.
It took another 90 minutes from that point for police to declare the shooting over.
Now, sources say police were struggling to get into the classroom and needed a key to open the door.
Eventually, a border patrol agent was able to get inside and the shooting was declared over at 1.06pm.
But it questions remain over why it took police so long to get into the classroom where the kids were trapped with the gunman.
One child told KENS 5 that he was able to hide under a desk, but that a girl who yelled out 'help' when police arrived was executed.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
This story is blowing up on Twitter under hashtag ‘40 minutes.’ There are allegations some police actually entered the school to rescue their own children then prevented other parents from attempting to rescue their own. Some parents were calling for storming the room themselves because it appeared the police weren’t planning on doing anything. We know now they were waiting for the SWAT team from the Border Patrol.
Obviously local communities are going to have reexamine their protocols in these situations. We also need to revisit the issue of training and arming teachers.
“The first casualty of war is truth”
Maybe no proof, but you’d have to be a credulous moron not to have suspicions. After what we now know about what the Feds are willing to do in the name of politics...they’ve squandered any assumption of rectitude.
If the story of the police not intervening is true, then it appears they were hamstrung by procedural rules, or rules of engagement. Police officers are not all cowards but they are more afraid of disciplinary actions for violating rules than they are of a lunatic with a gun. This is probably what happened at Columbine and elsewhere.
LOL! Whatever! I’m not the one making claims like you.
LOL! About what I expected from you.
Carry on!
That scenario has been presented as one description of what happened. The spokesman said "They had the shooter pinned down in one room..." but that still is not an adequate response to a shooter in a school, because containing the killer in one room is not the same as preventing them from doing what they are trying to do.
And having somebody contained in an area is not the same as them being "pinned down". Far from it.
It looks like the police response was flawed, like it was in Columbine, and at the school in Florida. That's very sad and suggests more work and training is necessary so that police do respond effectively in such a situation.
Oh that’s BS! Every member of administration has a key to every door, as well as the custodians, as well as a box of labeled master keys.
“The Colorado Columbine tragedy showed that cops follow their own safety. They let the kids die in Colorado as with Texas.”
That is not correct regarding Columbine. The Columbine tragedy showed the established way of doing hostage situations based on what worked in the past needed to be changed. PS I live <1km from the school.
“By then, 150 cops had descended onto the scene but it took 90 minutes for them to get to the shooter and stop him”
If this is true it is an outright disgrace. This was not a hostage situation, but an active shooter in the school. Cops should have entered without delay. Unfortunately in the this day and age some LE just don’t measure up.
I think, like someone else posted, this was a planned and managed event. In 1998, when I first joined FR, and when I re-joined after 9/11, I’d have been the first to call out “conspiracy BS.” 20-plus years later, nope.
You disdain Free Republic and you disdain Donald Trump!…..and you have a deep level disdain for the police!
I went back and read your posts….
“ We also need to revisit the issue of training and arming teachers.”
$40 B to a place 7,000 miles away not even a democracy. Not even an ally
How about that or a quarter of that to put real security in schools. Our kids are less important than Ukrainians to congress
That’s all
But that video of parents not being allowed in by cops standing around. It is not going to go over well. And it is going to be all over the net. Msm will have no control over it
Texans -cops and LE- will look stupid wimpy and power trip-y
If the NYPD did this it would tarnish their rep for ever.
Either the cops didn’t act according to the “proper procedures” and the individuals at the scene should be held to account OR the cops did act according the the “proper procedures” which is to let 20 children die over a period of 90 minutes until things cool down or a Border Patrol agent comes to fix the problem.
In that case, the people who wrote the procedure need to be held to account.
I don’t know if the classroom in question had an external wall, but with 20-20 hindsight, even a “dynamic breach” of the door and even an exterior or adjoining wall might have had a better outcome.
That is, blow the door and blow in a wall at the same moment. There are water-damped demo charges that will just create an instant entry through cinderblock and other materials. Of course, the risk is some kids might be hurt/killed during the dynamic breach, but the good side is that even the shooter is going to be stunned senseless while SWAT pours in.
Of course, any harm to kids/teachers will result in lawsuits etc, hence the “caution” and 21 dead.
What is now abundantly clear is that citizen parents need to ban together and deal with these situations themselves. It is a sad state when those same parents will have to fight their way through the police in order to get in and protect their children.
For all officers, either get in there when you arrive, or GET OUT OF OUR WAY.
Gawd, it was another Stoneman Douglas situation where the cops sat outside while the carnage happened inside the school.
You bring up part of a very good point, I think. The entire concept of security is upside-down. Schools, where children used to bring guns are now full of “teachers” who are unarmed if not afraid of guns. The doors are security doors, virtually un-breakable with little windows. This is “stupid”, mechanical security. It works for whoever controls the lock. With stupid people in the mix, who feel “safer” because of this, they are worse than useless.
Everyone has forgotten the lesson of 9-11. A plane full of disarmed people is a killing field for a man with a box-cutter.
I have been wondering that ever since I read it. Did he get it for his birthday? Just where did it come from?
good point
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