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To: Lazamataz; JimRed
My honest opinion?

That's all you've ever given me in 23 years, and that's all I've ever asked. I appreciate it.

I don’t like it. And this is why: We constantly cede ground to the anti-gunners but they never cede ground to us. You know how a racheting wrench works. Same thing. I’ve been in Illinois and I’ve had an FOID before. While in that system and in that state, it was relatively painless ...

We have a three-day waiting period. For everything, even ammo and gun parts. The gun store takes your money, checks your FOID card, and you have to go back three days later to pick up your box of .22 ammo. A common ploy in blue states. This would eliminate that waiting period. So yes, they'd be ceding that ground to us. Also, it takes CCP discretion out of their hands. The federal FOID card would function as a CCP in all 50 states. They'd cede that ground as well. And that's a lot of ground.

... the antis will NEVER be satisfied, and you just ceded a lot of ground to them... and now the national FOID tightens and tightens and tightens.

I agree, they will never be satisfied until all of us law-abiding citizens are completely disarmed. But this takes the center away from them, and the center wins all elections from now until the end of time. The anti-gunners would be a small, loud, petulant minority throwing highly visible temper tantrums, on the very rare occasions that some mass shooting would still happen.

Better to fight them absolutely at every stage. By not ceding universal background checks, for example, they cannot know for sure where the firearms are, making confiscation quite difficult.

Well then, we'd still have waiting periods in the blue states. It would still be virtually impossible for ordinary citizens to get a CCP in blue states. A lot of conservative law-abiding people live in blue states. Me, for example. As I pointed out for Freeper JimRed, no firearm registration is involved, and simply owning an FOID isn't probable cause for a search. They wouldn't know where the guns are.

87 posted on 05/25/2022 5:19:29 PM PDT by Philo1962 (This billboard space for rent)
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To: Philo1962; Lazamataz

I guess it’s old home week here on FR.

Given that 25 states in the Union now have Constitutional Carry, we’re actually better off now than we were when I first joined here.

Not that my state is on the right side of that but I expect that when Mark Robinson is elected Governor in 2024 that we’ll get CC.

We don’t win by giving up our rights or or freedoms.

Give them nothing. Take back the rights that people gave away years ago trying to appease the left.

They hate us and they want us dead. To get there, they first have to disarm us. They’re okay with getting it incrementally.

So no. No FOID. No asking FedGov can I pretty please have my gun. No lists. No permit. No waiting period.

No.


89 posted on 05/25/2022 6:19:44 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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