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Proposed new name for Fort Bragg to be announced on Tuesday (5/24/22)
WRAL .com ^ | 5/23/24 | WRAL

Posted on 05/24/2022 5:14:23 AM PDT by CodeJockey

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To: Lurkinanloomin

I am a born and raised Southerner and if I had to do it again there is no way in hell I would join a military that hates my ancestors, especially my gg grandpa Duncan Black, 15 NC Infantry, CSA. Or his brother who was killed in action at Bristoe Station, Virginia. Or my gg uncle Travis Porter, 3rd NC Infantry, who was taken POW at Gettysburg and died as a POW in the hell-hole known as Point Lookout, Maryland, where his body remains today in a great big mass “grave” on the site. I could go on with hundreds of names of my ancestors who fought and died in Lincoln’s War on the South. These same men where the grandsons of my ancestors who fought for our Independence from the British. I would not recommend any young person for military service in todays liberal US military, especially Southerners, because these sorry SOBs hate our ancestors.


141 posted on 05/25/2022 3:24:36 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ( )
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To: xzins

Forget about Patton. All his paternal ancestors fought in the CSA. Virginia.

Patton’s paternal ancestors were from central Virginia, originally Fredericksburg and later Culpeper. His grandfather, VMI graduate George Patton, became colonel of the 22d Virginia and served in the Shenandoah Valley and on the mountainous front between Virginia and West Virginia. George Patton suffered a mortal wound on 19 September 1864 at the Third Battle of Winchester as his brigade was overwhelmed by Union cavalry. He is buried in Winchester today.

The Patton family gave others (a total of 8) to the Confederate Army, all serving with the Army of Northern Virginia. Four did not survive the war. Most famously, George Patton’s brother Waller Tazewell Patton died at the head of the 7th Virginia during Pickett’s Charge. The war and its aftermath ruined the Pattons, and in 1866 Colonel Patton’s widow (the grandmother of General Patton) packed up the family to join some cousins in California. Without the Civil War, General Patton would have been born in Virginia.

For the future General Patton, the family saga in the Civil War was a defining element in his life. As a child, the future General Patton grew up playing with his grandfather’s sword from Third Winchester. He also met and was mesmerized by John S. Mosby, the great cavalry commander.

https://emergingcivilwar.com/2013/12/21/civil-war-echoes-general-patton/


142 posted on 05/25/2022 3:40:34 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ( )
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To: NKP_Vet

I was born in WI and my parents families were from upstate NY, but I have lived in VA for my entire adult life.
I have been to all the places you mentioned and have donated thousands of dollars to the preservation of battlefields around the country, but particularly around here.
I take this history erasing personally.
I hope Nimarata Randhawa is never elected to anything else ever again.


143 posted on 05/25/2022 6:59:01 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: dangus
So, a SecDef speaking out of turn is justification for the wholesale slaughter of tens of thousands of people?

The direct death toll of the civil war is put at 750,000 people, and this death toll was not caused by the Secretary of War "speaking out of turn." It was caused by Abraham Lincoln launching a war of conquest against people who did not want to remain under the control of Washington DC.

You can’t seriously be so ridiculous as to expect that supply ships aren’t defended when sailing into hostile territory?

Those weren't supply ships, they were warships, and their orders were to attack the confederates if the confederates resisted their efforts to put supplies into Fort Sumter. (which they were absolutely going to do.)

The "Star of the West" was a supply ship, and even at that, the government had secretly loaded it up with troops and munitions intending to reinforce Fort Sumter.

Lincoln did NOT call for the Corwin amendment. He consented not to oppose it, on the grounds that it had no effect on the Constitution, which, as a conservative, he believed respected states’ rights.

Announcing he would not oppose it gives the green light to party members to vote for it. Lincoln went further. He wrote to all the governors of the seceded states informing them that the Corwin Amendment had passed the congress and was now in the process of being ratified by the states.

He was operating under the mistaken impression that the only thing they cared about was protecting slavery. The Corwin Amendment was not successful because the Southern states wanted to control their own economic policies and this amendment did not offer that.

This, thus, provides no counter-evidence to all the other positions he took to limit the spread of slavery.

There was never going to be any spread of slavery. It was economically unfeasible. The repeated assertion of the "spread of slavery" was just a psyops tactic to get people to worry about slavery, but the real goal was to limit the Southern states ability to obtain allies that would vote with them in congress.

Nobody really cared about the slaves. (except people who were regarded as "kooks" during this time period.)

The reality is it was the Confederacy which wanted to force slavery on the new territories, and enlist every state in helping it maintain its obscene oppression.

You have been taught nonsense. Here is a modern map of cotton growing.

The cotton grown in West Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California can only be grown as a consequence of modern irrigation systems which did not exist in 1860 and would not exist for another 40 years at the earliest.

There would have been *NO* expansion of slavery. That was just a lie told to keep political power.

Well, Lincoln didn’t oppose the tariff reductions of 1857... and soon-to-be confederate states only generated half of the customs, so nonsense.

They generated 72% of the total. They had 1/4th the citizens of the Northern states, but they were producing nearly 3/4ths of the total tax revenue for the nation.

You’re arguing that they what they plain and simply did, because you don’t believe it served their economoic interests, ignoring the simple fact that they fought like bloody Hell to force Utah, New Mexico (including Arizona), Kansas, Nebraska (including Wyoming) and California to become slave states.

Why? Ask yourself why they would want states that cannot actually make use of slavery to become part of the Union, and that would vote with the existing slave states?

144 posted on 05/25/2022 10:29:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: NKP_Vet

Thanks,NKP_Vet


145 posted on 05/25/2022 12:04:32 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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