W. Bush at the funeral for 5 Dallas cops killed by a BLM terrorist
Posted on 05/21/2022 9:27:15 AM PDT by cuz1961
In a prank call
George W. Bush admits
the US broke its promise to Russia not to expand NATO eastwards
because “times have changed”
and the US was “adjusting to the times”.
Important for all nations to know that US agreements have an undisclosed expiry date.
I am not arguing that a verbal promise by a U.S. President is meaningless. What I am saying is that it is just his personal promise of his Administration, and is understood as as such unless it is subsequently ratified or otherwise implemented by Congress. When Obama leaned over to Medvedev and said "I can show more flexibility after the election", is that something that should have been binding on the U.S. government even if he had lost??
George H.W. Bush made that promise through Baker in a specific context. That's how it was understood by Gorby at the time - just read his own statements on it - and Bush kept his word.
It is the attempt to convert that promise to the status of a super-treaty that can never be abrogated that is messed up.
It's not like formal treaties and other written agreements between the U.S. and the Soviet Union were unknown. Both sides knew exactly how to do that when they intended to make a more permanent agreement. The fact that they didn't do that here means that your assumption this was intended as a permanent agreement is simply wrong.
What’s even weirder are all the people crawling out of the woodwork thinking that there was any good god-damned reason to expand NATO at all. It wasn’t “defense” but NWO imperialist offense.
Nobody is “coming out of the woodwork”, because NATO expansion has been generally popular for a long time. That’s different from those who only now suddenly support the idea that a President can bind the entire country in perpetuity with a verbal promise.
Popular??? You are insane. Of the top 100 things any American cheers on the expansion of that tired, bedraggled, bureaucracy is not one of them. It's a tool for globalists and that is all.
I’m not talking about the tiny minority of Americans who are obsessed with politics. I’m talking about the vast majority who generally think of NATO as a good thing. Which is why not even Trump withdrew.
keep it up NeoCon. You are talking about a vast majority of two folks outside the DC swamp.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/04/06/seven-in-ten-americans-now-see-russia-as-an-enemy/
Maybe we're all just easily-fooled morons being tricked by the Deep State, but that doesn't change what those opinions actually are.
I know your probably disappointed that NATO is more popular with the Public than is Vladimir Putin...but them's the breaks!
“That’s how you get order, and without order you get multiculturalism, which is just another word for chaos.”
A nation does need a shared language and culture. But there is a lot of room for variation.
It would be one of the worst scenarios if this nation had a singular culture. We need some things in common but not everything.
This nation began with lots of people who had some important things in common, but with many differences between them. The common ground gave us this nation, with a tiered structure of power. Federal, state, local.
Among the bedrock principles incorporated into the founding documents were freedom of association and the support of community values. This is how diversity can be beneficial.
I remember it being mentioned on the national news at that time.
I completely agree my phrase was just kind of a fancy way of saying the nation used to be a melting pot, but it became a salad bowl.
I am disappointed that neocons and deep state corruptocrats with whom you seem to identify want to get up to effery in Ukraine when the big issue is stopping China from talking all the marbles when US$ hegemony ends and our supply chain collapses.
You may disagree with that opinion, but we at least agree that opposition to China is critical.
I utterly disagree. Sure you don’t want to project weakness, but getting bogged down in Ukraine is an open invitation for China to take Taiwan and step up the pace of taking down the US by disrupting our supply chain and cutting us off from essential things.]
The US does not need to prove stomach for engaging in armed conflict. We have been doing it since the end of WWII. We have spread a lot of death and destruction. The only thing we haven’t done is actually establish permanent control on the ground. In this last we have been beaten back every....single...bloody....time.
We did our supply chain eff-up to ourselves. It’s one of those things we never should have gotten into in the frist place - like Ukraine.
2) Supply chain issues are caused by China, not Russia, and if they wanted to screw with us, they could do it regardless of what was happening in Ukraine.
So I'd rather they know ahead of time that the West won't fold like a cheap suit of they start getting aggressive.
Not only are you a neocon but you are stubborn, unreflective and a fool.
Well, that's like the moron Triple Crown! I consider that high praise!
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