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To: FarCenter

NATO might just kick Turkey out to get Sweden and Finland in to the organization, or they could form a new subgroup to contain Russia and add Japan and Georgia. The world is changing and Turkey is the old NATO, and not needed for the future.


2 posted on 05/17/2022 7:45:01 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

The sick man of Europe can suck it and take a hike. Erdogan can stick it. Turkey is worthless to NATO just as NATO is worthless. Bring the troops home, let the continent pay for its own defense. Enough giving away American blood and money.


4 posted on 05/17/2022 7:50:32 PM PDT by Fungi
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Turkey is of strategic importance. They control Russian access to the Mediterranean. Push them too far and they could flip in order to establish “Greater Turkey” with the help of Russia and China.

https://preview.redd.it/0gm44gv83ur51.jpg?auto=webp&s=668b57731812c86f438ca8e79d3daf47dbc3f171

(I don’t like them getting any of Bulgaria)


5 posted on 05/17/2022 7:50:45 PM PDT by packagingguy
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That would be a useful tactic at this point. When the enemy was a strong and menacing USSR, Turkey was a geopolitical anchor of the Southern end of NATO. But that was last century. If Turkey today is not willing to fulfill its obvious role in the alliance, then cut it loose. We don’t need an unreliable obstructionist weak link in the security of the West, caught up in its own parochial rivalries and outdated issues.


14 posted on 05/17/2022 8:16:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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“Turkey is the old NATO, and not needed for the future.”

Russia is waiting with open arms for a new friend that controls critical waterways connecting Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

Russia thinks they are needed—for a Russian future.


18 posted on 05/17/2022 8:29:15 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Turkey can cause a lot more damage to NATO from the outside than the spineless cucks in Sweden and Finland can help NATO on the inside.

Thus, the USA/Deep state will never have Turkey to be kicked out or NATO, unless they are terribly stupid

So its a 50/50 bet.


25 posted on 05/17/2022 10:11:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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I’d make that trade. More logical Sweden and Finland would be in NATO.


27 posted on 05/18/2022 1:23:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Plus - many current NATO nations are “escapees” from the Ottoman Empire, which empire Erdogan so longs for. Putin’s Russia is Asian and not European in its behavior. Neither is Turkey in its orientation European.


33 posted on 05/18/2022 5:39:58 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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