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How Australia saved thousands of lives while COVID killed 1 million Americans
New York Times via Seattle Times ^ | 05/15/2022 | Damien Cave

Posted on 05/15/2022 7:59:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

MELBOURNE, Australia — If the United States had the same COVID death rate as Australia, about 900,000 lives would have been saved. The Texas grandmother who made the perfect pumpkin pie might still be baking. The Red Sox-loving husband who ran marathons before COVID might still be cheering at Fenway Park.

For many Americans, imagining what might have been will be painful. But especially now, at the milestone of 1 million deaths in the United States, the nations that did a better job of keeping people alive show what Americans could have done differently and what might still need to change.

Many places provide insight: Japan, Kenya, Norway. But Australia offers perhaps the sharpest comparisons with the American experience. Both countries are English-speaking democracies with similar demographic profiles. In Australia and in the United States, the median age is 38. Roughly 86% of Australians live in urban areas, compared with 83% of Americans.

Yet Australia’s COVID death rate sits at one-tenth of America’s, putting the nation of 25 million people (with around 7,500 deaths) near the top of global rankings in the protection of life.

Australia’s location in the distant Pacific is often cited as the cause for its relative COVID success. That, however, does not fully explain the difference in outcomes between the two countries, since Australia has long been, like the United States, highly connected to the world through trade, tourism and immigration. In 2019, 9.5 million international tourists came to Australia.

So what went right in Australia and wrong in the United States?

For the standard slideshow presentation, it looks obvious: Australia restricted travel and personal interaction until vaccinations were widely available, then maximized vaccine uptake, prioritizing people who were most vulnerable before gradually opening up the country again.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; bloggers; bullfauci; codswallop; covid; covid1984; damiencave; deathrate; fakenews; newsforumabuse; newyorkslimes; nyslimesfakenews; smokybackroomforum; theapprovednarrative
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To: SeekAndFind

What a crock of ####. The leftists in the MSM want to glorify Autralian covid concentration camps because that’s what they want for Trump supporters.


21 posted on 05/15/2022 8:17:52 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: SeekAndFind
Folks, I know that you are skeptics of this article, but I wish you’d at least tell us your reasons for disbelieving what it says instead of simply saying: “I don’t believe it.”

OK, I'll start: how about all the riots they had in Australia against the "vaccine" mandates and lockdowns? You know, the ones where thousands of Aussies ran in the streets getting tear gassed and receiving wood shampoos just for demanding they be able to leave their houses once in a while? Where does that fit into this delusional sack o' feces's analysis? Nowhere, that's where, because in his indoctrinated NPC pea brain, Australia was a joyful utopia where all have won the battle over themselves and now love Big Brother.
22 posted on 05/15/2022 8:21:32 PM PDT by fr_freak ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

I kind of doubt it because there is no way of knowing whether or not the death toll in Australia would have been any higher without the draconian infringments of rights. This article’s praise of boot-on-your face government is obscene.


23 posted on 05/15/2022 8:21:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Probably about 300,000 died from Covid. The rest were other conditions ascribed to Covid.


24 posted on 05/15/2022 8:21:40 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And if My aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

CC


25 posted on 05/15/2022 8:22:21 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Imagine actually believing 1 million people died from Covid. And yet people I once respected believe it, hook line and sinker. This nation is completely lost.


26 posted on 05/15/2022 8:22:23 PM PDT by montag813
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To: SeekAndFind
Folks, I know that you are skeptics of this article, but I wish you’d at least tell us your reasons for disbelieving what it says instead of simply saying: “I don’t believe it.” ( or in similar words ).

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/over-200000-residents-and-staff-in-long-term-care-facilities-have-died-from-covid-19/

Perhaps those 200,000+ deaths among long term care facility patients and staff made a difference. In New York, that could win an award.

https://ltccovid.org/questions/2-02/

As of 18th March 2022, there have been 20,154 confirmed cases of COVID-19 among subsidized residents in aged care facilities. There have been 1,879 deaths so far.

27 posted on 05/15/2022 8:24:37 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: SeekAndFind
So what went right in Australia and wrong in the United States?

I'm sure that the Aussies didn't stick COVID patients in nursing hoes where the most vulnerable live. they probably didn't count suicides and deaths from automotive accidents as COVID related, either. I'm sure that skewed their numbers down, as well.

28 posted on 05/15/2022 8:25:11 PM PDT by Turbo Pig ('To close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: SeekAndFind

Both of those are commi newspapers. Let’s celebrate China and Austrlia that had authoritarian lockdowns.

How about the 30 other countries that did better than Australia and didn’t throw their citizens into camps.


Chad 11
South Sudan 12
Niger 12 3
Tajikistan 12
Benin 13 1
Tanzania 13
Democratic Republic of the Congo 14
Nigeria 14
Sierra Leone 15
Burkina Faso 17 3
Central African Republic 22
Bhutan 26
Eritrea 28
Ivory Coast 29 7
Togo 32
Guinea 32
Mali 35
Nicaragua 35
Taiwan 43
Vanuatu 44 1
Ghana 45
Uzbekistan 48
Madagascar 49
Angola 55
Liberia 56
Cook Islands 56
Ethiopia 63
Republic of the Congo
Mozambique 68
Yemen 70 2
Cameroon 70
Papua New Guinea 71
Haiti 72
Uganda 76
Somalia 83
Guinea-Bissau 84
Timor-Leste 97
Laos 102
Kenya 102
Tonga 103
Kiribati 107
Rwanda 109
Sudan 109
Senegal 114 1
Samoa 119
Equatorial Guinea 126
Gabon 133
Malawi 134
Pakistan 134
Gambia 146
Algeria 154
Syria 172
Saint Pierre and Miquelon 173
Bangladesh 175
New Zealand 180
Comoros 180 160
Cambodia 180
Djibouti 188
Afghanistan 192
Venezuela 198
Mauritania 205
Solomon Islands 207
Zambia 210
United Arab Emirates 230
Qatar 231
Egypt 236
Japan 238
Singapore 249
Saudi Arabia 257
Australia 302
Iceland 325
India 376

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country


29 posted on 05/15/2022 8:26:09 PM PDT by consult
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Australia didn’t count non covid deaths as covid cases like we did. No mention of Sweden? Last I heard they didn’t have any more deaths than countries that lockdown, of course that doesn’t fit their narrative, so let’s not mention it.


30 posted on 05/15/2022 8:26:18 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: SeekAndFind

One reason people do not believe these kinds of stories is that the CDC has gotten caught or acknowledged that their COVID case numbers and death numbers have been wrong for various reasons, and have been adjusted downward. One story involved some kind of data input error by the CDC. These stories have been posted to FR.


31 posted on 05/15/2022 8:26:59 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: SeekAndFind

Odds are that the Australian health system kept more honest numbers, while the US federal government was paying out hospitals who would write off people with broken legs as covid patients.


32 posted on 05/15/2022 8:27:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I did not shoot the burglar. I pointed a laser dot on his head and let the cats do the rest. )
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To: SeekAndFind

B.S.


33 posted on 05/15/2022 8:27:48 PM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: BenLurkin

NZ with 5 Mil pop and 85% jabbed and constant lockdowns has had over 1 Mil cases Aussie should have had a lot more ...


34 posted on 05/15/2022 8:28:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind
The Centers for Disease Coercion (CDC) still hasn't explained the miracle of COVID-1984 and how it eliminated all flu deaths for two years.
35 posted on 05/15/2022 8:28:39 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind

Author didn’t mention population density at all, and that sure seems relevant. 3 people per square kilometer in Australia, 36 per sq km in the U.S.


36 posted on 05/15/2022 8:28:43 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: SeekAndFind

“End justifies the means” article


37 posted on 05/15/2022 8:29:15 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait,,,,
What?


38 posted on 05/15/2022 8:29:39 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: consult

Whats that 180 next to New Zealand

NZ has had 1 Mil cases thousands dead and constant lockdowns ...


39 posted on 05/15/2022 8:30:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind
Need to look at total deaths in Australia for the years 2019, 2020 and 2021 and compare.

Australia is isolated in the middle of the pacific. They had no international flights for two years. That was not possible in USA. Stupid article.

40 posted on 05/15/2022 8:32:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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