Posted on 05/12/2022 5:34:14 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Ukraine was denied entry into both NATO and the EU. Russia wanted the resources under the soil in Eastern Ukraine, and to isolate it from the Black Sea.
NATO is NOT an offensive based alliance, but a defensive one designed to contain Soviet expansion against the Warsaw Pact. It is a security agreement. Name one nation that NATO invaded under its charter - zero.
Russia’s unilateral invasion of Ukraine has driven Sweden and Finland to the point that they need security. Pretty damn simple.
Your analogy to Cuba is flawed - did we invade Cuba? No. Are US nuclear missiles in Finland or Sweden? No. Were they in Ukraine? No.
Russia/Soviet Union has been an aggressor nation since it’s inception. Ask the Poles and the rest of Eastern Europe. Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia joined NATO, right on the border with Russia - did Russia threaten them with war? No.
How about that little Winter (Russo-Finnish) War in 1939?
“....The war began with a Soviet invasion of Finland on 30 November 1939, three months after the outbreak of World War II,....”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
And prior to that there was the Finnish Civil War (Sideshow to the Russian Civil War). The new USSR dabbled in that!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
They’ve got is backwards... The Kremlin has become a threat to Finland and all its neighbors.
Exactly! Russia has been a perfect neighbor. No reason for any of those countries to want to defend themselves.
russia is starting to sound like the chinks who are ‘angered’ with anything tAiwan related
Especially since Russia just laid out A case that the West has been engaging in biological warfare which is by the way for bidden by international treaty of the signatories. The reason they did that was now that they have a cause of war to use practically anything in their arsenal. now would be not a good time to bait the bear
I think before too long you may find out the hard way that Putin is the voice of reason in all this. Everybody’s thinking that this would go away if Putin went away I just think that that would make room for somebody far worse with far less restraint who is far less concerned about killing civilians
I suggest that you read about the Winter War of 1939-1940.
Russia knows only two kinds of neighbors:
Threats and Vassals.
There are already nukes pointed at them.
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“ It is interesting how the Ukraine pushers and neocons don’t seem bothered, ONE BIT, about what’s going on the US..”
Some of us can be concerned about more than one thing at a time. Don’t assume everyone else has your shortcomings.
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95% of the “aid” to Ukraine is pure pork.
We all know that “war is great for business.”
“There are already nukes pointed at them.”
Now they’re get there in far less time! Anyway, their choice, they lose either way.
“Some of us can be concerned about more than one thing at a time. Don’t assume everyone else has your shortcomings.”
Sorry, but when the Neocons join the Bidenistas in marching the country towards WW3, I’m not going to follow them like a useful idiot.
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