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California lays out plan to drastically cut fossil fuel use
KTLA ^ | May 11, 2022 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/11/2022 10:53:08 AM PDT by artichokegrower

New homes built in California starting in 2026 need to be powered by all-electric furnaces, stoves and other appliances if California is to meet its ambitious climate change goals over the next two decades, according to a state pollution-reduction plan released Tuesday.

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To: artichokegrower

Electric heating is much less efficient than natural gas. The result will be that even more electricuty will be required. Good luck supplying it with just wind and solar
(and unicorn farts).


21 posted on 05/11/2022 11:13:19 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: artichokegrower

...and Newsom wants to be president. God help us.


22 posted on 05/11/2022 11:14:06 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: unread
Californians gonna have stronger legs that stewardesses. LOL


23 posted on 05/11/2022 11:14:40 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: artichokegrower

>> New homes built in California starting in 2026 need to be powered by all-electric furnaces, stoves <<

Well, thank God this is happening in a state with such a reliable electricity grid. California NEVER has brownouts, right?


24 posted on 05/11/2022 11:16:24 AM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: artichokegrower

will put a crinkle in working from home too


25 posted on 05/11/2022 11:17:41 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cdnerds

They are getting very close to losing two sources of power. Both Hoover dam (Lake Mead) and Page Dam (Lake Powell) are close to minimum levels for power generation.


26 posted on 05/11/2022 11:18:33 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

OK, this is a fantastically stupid move by California for so many reasons. But this is silly: “All the good wind sites are consumed with windmills already.”

OF COURSE, California is going solar. OF COURSE they are. But holy cow, there is no way there is any shortage of wind sites. Do you have any idea how huge ... and mostly empty ... the U.S. is?


27 posted on 05/11/2022 11:23:37 AM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I never saw a single restaurant that used ELECTRIC for cooking.

How about the “Food Trucks”???


28 posted on 05/11/2022 11:27:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: DoughtyOne

When we remodeled our kitchen about a decade ago, our 2 adult sons helped in the design and layout

One is an engineer and one was/is a chef.

Based on my wife’s excellent culinary skills, she wanted an electric two oven combo, with a convection oven on top and a regular electric oven on the bottom rack.

Then, we bought and installed a 5 burner gas stove top grill.

I’m the charcoal grilling expert in our family. My CharGrill is located just outside a pass through window over the sink and in between the ovens and across 7’ of covered deck.

At times, we have had both ovens, the 5 stove top gas burners and my Char Grill loaded with delectable’s being cooked, sauteed, baked and grilled and coordinated by wife and the chef son.


29 posted on 05/11/2022 11:28:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: anoldafvet

BUT !!! They are finding barrels filled with skeletons !!!!


30 posted on 05/11/2022 11:29:18 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: beethovenfan

Electric heating is much less efficient than natural gas. The result will be that even more electricuty will be required.


Or just make the price for heating the home too expensive for ordinary people. They could do as the Brits used to, put a coin in a room heater for an hour or two’s heat, wear lots of clothes, sleep under lots of blankets. I believe the Japanese still do something like this.

Just get used to being uncomfortably cold for months at a time. Being able to feel comfortable year round is so 20th-century America.


31 posted on 05/11/2022 11:36:08 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: DoughtyOne

“all-electric furnaces,”

When I lived in cold world for a while, I kept a spreadsheet of cost per X BTUs. Electric was the most costly (8cents/kwh) followed by liquid propane, heating oil, cord wood (bought), and then 40lb bags of coal. I CAN’T IMAGINE THE INSANE BILL OF ELECTRIC HEAT AT CA’s 30-40 cents per kwh.


32 posted on 05/11/2022 11:45:45 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: artichokegrower

CARB Staff is behind this crap... bunch of enviroweenines


33 posted on 05/11/2022 11:46:57 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Note, 40lb bags of coal bought via 1 ton pallets.


34 posted on 05/11/2022 11:47:47 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: artichokegrower

Their plan, like New York’s plan, is no plan at all. They will rely on storage technology which doesn’t exist, depend on unaffordable metastasis of “renewable” energy sources, and have no idea how they would pay for all this nonsense.


35 posted on 05/11/2022 11:48:03 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Myrddin

its even worse, CARB wants to suck all the “carbon” out of the air too...


36 posted on 05/11/2022 11:50:02 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: artichokegrower

And just twenty two years ago Southern Cal was in the midst of a super hot heat wave. They could not find enough power to ship to the South to cool everyone down.

And twenty years ago the citizens of the Los Angeles area turned down a proposal for a natural gas power plant to be built.


37 posted on 05/11/2022 11:54:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (FREE AT LAST! Third time this year sprung from Facebook Jail! Any bets on how long out?)
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To: artichokegrower

No such thing as fossil fuels.


38 posted on 05/11/2022 11:56:48 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I'll wear a mask when Dr. Fraudchi shuts the hell up.)
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To: artichokegrower

California seems to be living on the principal of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS movie...”So let it be written, so let it be done!”


39 posted on 05/11/2022 11:58:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (FREE AT LAST! Third time this year sprung from Facebook Jail! Any bets on how long out?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Sounds like you have a fair amount of current going through
that setup at times.

An electric oven wouldn’t be as objectionable to me.

I don’t like using a frying pan or griddle over those
old electric stove-tops. I’ve had things actually become
done in a circle, with gaps of uncooked portions.

Could be I had the wrong pan. I can imaging a good pan
that spread out the heat would have probably worked.

Hope you have many more good times with that set-up.

I like hearing about that.


40 posted on 05/11/2022 12:02:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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