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To: SmokingJoe

Those areas were a part of Mexico for 25 years. That’s when Mexico officially became Mexico just about 200 years ago. Spain left giving the land to Mexico, but the U S contested it.

It wasn’t a long term national holding going back hundreds or thousands of years. The local Native Americans owned the land. Mexico didn’t.

I believe Mexico was formed around 1825. The US went to war with Mexico.
We defeated it and the paid for the land. This was around 1850.

There was a secondary land purchase a few years later and the border was set.

Those that say we stole Mexico’s land don’t understand the history of the region.


37 posted on 05/08/2022 11:37:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Those that say we stole Mexico's land don't understand the history of the region.

Most Mexicans understand the history of The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo far more than most Americans do. After all, the Mexicans were basically forced to give up half their country to a more powerful neighbor, who where at the time were occupying Mexico City as well as California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and portions of Colorado and Wyoming, which were part of Mexico at the time.
Forcing another country to give up their lands at gunpoint is not what I'd call civilized or reasonable.

“The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed in February 1848, was a triumph for U.S. expansionism under which Mexico ceded nearly half its land. The Mexican Cession, as the conquest of land west of the Rio Grande was called, included the current states of California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and portions of Colorado and Wyoming. Mexico also came to recognize the Rio Grande as the border with the United States. Mexican citizens in the ceded territory were promised U.S. citizenship in the future when the territories they were living in became states. In exchange, the United States agreed to assume $3.35 million worth of Mexican debts owed to U.S. citizens, paid Mexico $15 million for the loss of its land, and promised to guard the residents of the Mexican Cession from American Indian raids.”

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/expansion-and-the-mexican-american-war/

43 posted on 05/09/2022 12:04:03 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: DoughtyOne

Hey, D1! You and I don’t always agree, but we mostly do. ;-)

On this one, aside from the usual arguments from Pooty tools and fools that drive most people to Ukraine’s side, something else caught my eye:

Rogozin is admitting that US helicopters managed to deliver Starlink terminals to Ukrainian defenders in besieged Mariupol.

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!!!

Apparently, Russian incompetence knows no ends.

I’m also trying to figure out how this guy (Rogozin) ever made it past asst. manager of a local TV wrestling association, but, that’s quite another subject.


45 posted on 05/09/2022 12:11:57 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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