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‘The king of battle’ — How US artillery in the hands of Ukrainians may reshape the war with Russia
Task & Purpose ^ | May 2, 2022 | Jeff Schogol

Posted on 05/05/2022 3:37:28 AM PDT by tlozo

The 90 M777 howitzers that the United States is providing to Ukraine will not only make it more difficult for the Russians to move out in the open but the guns could also support a future Ukrainian offensive to reclaim Russian-occupied parts of their country, experts told Task & Purpose.

About 70 of the 155 mm guns along with roughly 70,000 artillery rounds have been transferred to Ukraine so far, a senior defense official told reporters on Monday. More than 200 Ukrainian troops are expected to be trained on how to operate the howitzers by the end of Monday with another 50 Ukrainian service members scheduled to begin training later this week.

The first Ukrainian artillerymen were trained by Canadian troops and other Ukrainians were taught how to operate the howitzers by Florida National Guardsmen, the senior defense official said at a Pentagon news briefing. Those guardsmen had been on a training mission inside Ukraine before the Russian invasion and now they are continuing their mission in Germany.

Even in this age of modern – and often over-engineered – weapons systems, artillery has proven its worth time and again on the battlefield. During the 2017 fight to drive the Islamic State group from its former capital of Raqqa, Syria, a Marine artillery detachment fired so many 155 mm rounds in support of Syrian Democratic Forces that they burned out the barrels of two of their M777 howitzers.

“The one thing on artillery is: We’ve always called it ‘the king of battle,’ back to Napoleonic times, just because there’s really no defense against it once it’s firing,” said Marine Col. James W. Frey, a senior military fellow at the Center for a New American Security think tank in Washington, D.C.

Another inherent advantage of artillery is that it can be fired in all weather conditions and at any time of day or night, Frey told Task & Purpose.

The howitzers will help Ukrainian forces hinder the Russian’s ability to maneuver, he said. Because it’s muddy in spring, the Russians are likely to stick to the roads when they move. Using drones and other forms of reconnaissance, the Ukrainians can constantly monitor those roads and strike with artillery when needed.

“The artillery just gives you a lot more options 24/7 without having to expose people within that distance,” Frey said.

Since the Ukrainians know their own territory better than the Russians, they can also design their defenses to channel Russian advances into kill zones, where the Russian forces could be destroyed by artillery, Frey said.

“There’s only so many lines of communication to go in and out for those roads – especially if you’re working heavier equipment and logistics that the Russians are depending on,” Frey said. “You could certainly knock that out because there’s only so many avenues of approach that they could use.

The Defense Department is also providing Ukrainian forces with 14 counter-artillery radars. Combined with those radars, which the Ukrainians have been receiving since 2015, the howitzers will allow Ukrainian forces to target and attack Russian tube and rocket artillery, said retired Army Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, former commander of U.S. Army Europe.

“The radar intercepts incoming artillery and then your own guns can shoot back at where it came from quickly,” Hodges said. “This is an important part of the fight. And so, providing the Ukrainians additional artillery will enable them to destroy – or at least disrupt – the Russian artillery and rocket launchers that are causing the most damage against Ukrainians – but also against towns and cities.”

Artillery is generally used against targets in the open, such as air defense systems, logistics areas, and convoys of lightly armored vehicles, Hodges said. Other prime targets for artillery include command posts and headquarters.

“If you discover a division or combined arms army headquarters in a village or set up somewhere – that’s exactly what you would want to do, is hammer that with artillery,” Hodges said.

The Ukrainians claim they have already killed and wounded several Russian general officers by attacking enemy command posts, including Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov. However, U.S. officials have not confirmed these claims.

As well as providing the Ukrainians with a strong defensive capability, the howitzers would also allow Ukrainian forces to switch to offense, Hodges said. “If there is a counterattack of any sort by the Ukrainians or a conventional counter-offensive, they will need the artillery to support their attack as well,” he said.

There are two ways the Ukrainians could use their new howitzers to go on the attack: They could fire massive barrages to blow holes through the Russian lines, or they could destroy Russian artillery ahead of the attack, said retired Army Col. Tom Davis, who led the 4th Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment in the 3rd Armored Division during the 1991 Gulf War.

Every time the Russians fire one of their own artillery pieces, they will have to pack up and move to avoid the Ukrainian counter fire, Davis told Task & Purpose. The Russians also tend to concentrate their artillery “hub-to-hub” while the U.S. military keeps artillery units spread out as a form of protection.

Ultimately, the Ukrainians should receive a total of 183,000 artillery rounds for their M777 howitzers, according to the Defense Department. To put that number into perspective, Davis said that his battalion fired fewer than 1,000 rounds during the Gulf War’s four-day ground campaign.

“If they’re getting 180,000 some-odd rounds, that should give them a pretty good capability to diminish and significantly degrade a lot of the Russian artillery,” Davis told Task & Purpose. “And if they can find the [Russian] logistics spots – if they can find the places where they’ve got their supply trains, where they’ve got the fuel trucks, where they’ve got their own intel command and control organizations – if they can find those places and can take them out, then they’re going to get a real significant advantage because, apparently, the Russians are really struggling with command and control as it is.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; war
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U.S. Marine Corps M777 towed 155 mm howitzers are staged on the flight line prior to being loaded onto a U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III aircraft at March Air Reserve Base, California, April 22, 2022


1 posted on 05/05/2022 3:37:28 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

What a BS. They used to have over a thousand of artillery pieces before the war, several hundred of them much more capable than M777. But yes, 100 guns are going to change everything:)


2 posted on 05/05/2022 3:44:45 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

The author of this article works for the Pentagon.


3 posted on 05/05/2022 3:50:21 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: tlozo

Which defense contractor is this idiot in the pay of?


4 posted on 05/05/2022 3:51:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: tlozo

BEAUTIFUL!!! This backups what was reported elsewhere from Russion troop radio intercepts that moral us extremely low due to Ukrainian artillery fire. The Russian troops know they are getting thrown into death trap kill zones. Their advances have stalled out because Russian troops are refusing to be cannon fodder.


5 posted on 05/05/2022 3:53:52 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: AndyJackson

6 posted on 05/05/2022 3:54:46 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: tlozo
Since the Ukrainians know their own territory better than the Russians, they can also design their defenses to channel Russian advances into kill zones, where the Russian forces could be destroyed by artillery, Frey said.

Did he read this in a book somewhere?

The Russians can't use google maps? Well, they have their own as well. And oh, there are all those Russians living in Ukraine who know the territory they live in as well as the Ukrainians because they are Ukrainians.

Whatever. We know the Russians have lost too many men and too much equipment and are out of ammunition and food and retreating as fast as they can in a direction to encircle the Ukrainian forces in the Donbass where the Russians will be shredded mercirlessly.

And sanctions are taking their bite as the Rubble climes to new highs against the almighty dollar.

7 posted on 05/05/2022 3:54:59 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: NorseViking

The most important part was buried in the article: “14 counter-artillery radars.”

The the mobile radar can pinpoint enemy artillery from up to 20 miles away.


8 posted on 05/05/2022 3:56:54 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Bulwinkle, a.k.a. Daffy Duck )
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To: tlozo

See, this tells us that the war is going well enough that people are running to the news outlets and video’s to get their moment and “recognition” on how we’ll the war is going.

Grandstanding means there’s some level of success somewhere to make a mountain out of a mole hill.


9 posted on 05/05/2022 3:59:39 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: tlozo

Without air superiority, how do these artillery units not get pasted before they are moved into range?


10 posted on 05/05/2022 4:00:34 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: tlozo

Nice looking...we need to make lots more.


11 posted on 05/05/2022 4:01:35 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: JonPreston

WOW! You found Mookie? Is there still a bounty on his head?


12 posted on 05/05/2022 4:02:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (When the kings fight the serfs suffer.)
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To: Bulwinkle

It can be fired upon just as great, especially when there are just 14 of them. Ukrainian officers also have a history of selling them to DNR rebels.


13 posted on 05/05/2022 4:03:13 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Grey182

Who cares? Someone already paid for it.


14 posted on 05/05/2022 4:03:59 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: tlozo

Learning to fire a howitzer is not very difficult. Maybe 2 or 3 weeks.

Teaching firing data computation and a Fire Direction team takes a little more effort.

Synchronizing artillery fire with the maneuver effort takes an effort and months of training to perfect.

Mastering Battalion and higher level massing of Artillery fires takes years to develop.

There are 5 conditions for accurate, predictable artillery fire.
1. Accurate gun location. (GPS)
2. Accurate target location.
3. Accurate Metrological Data.
4. Common Survey
5. Accurate Muzzle velocity.

Unless they sent of ton of fire control computers, calculating any of these manually is difficult for anyone.


15 posted on 05/05/2022 4:04:45 AM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: NorseViking

Made me laugh!


16 posted on 05/05/2022 4:05:03 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: dennisw

Western weapons just keep pouring in. Russia stands no chance of winning long term. It’s a of beauty watching the Ukrainian honey badgers maul the Russian scum.


17 posted on 05/05/2022 4:05:22 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: tlozo

At some point there’s going to be a confrontation between us and the Ruskies. I wonder what the cheeseball in chief will do then? They’ll cut and run, leaving us high and dry.


18 posted on 05/05/2022 4:16:55 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: AndyJackson
The Russians can't use google maps?

Ukrainian villagers report Russian movement real time, through messaging apps

19 posted on 05/05/2022 4:18:26 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: BiglyCommentary

>Western weapons just keep pouring in.

And who is gonna man them? The Ukrainian men who keep fleeing the country?


20 posted on 05/05/2022 4:20:40 AM PDT by captain_jonas
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