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Elon, you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about
Techcrunch ^ | April 26, 2022 | Devin Coldewey

Posted on 05/03/2022 12:32:51 PM PDT by hadit2here

Elon Musk is embarrassing himself on the global stage again by proudly bruiting a grade-school level of familiarity with the immensely complex concepts of free speech, censorship, rights and privileges of individuals and government authorities. The fact that this aggressively ignorant person is likely to take over one of the largest communication platforms on Earth should scare the shit out of you.

Here is what the richest man in the world said earlier today, on the platform he intends to acquire:

By ‘free speech,’ I simply mean that which matches the law. I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law. If people want less free speech, they will ask government to pass laws to that effect. Therefore, going beyond the law is contrary to the will of the people.

Elon’s got one thing going for him. He has demonstrated an apparently innate facility to pack more willful and privileged ignorance into a single sentence than almost anyone on the planet.

These statements are so fundamentally wrong — factually, ethically, practically, and in every other way, that I hardly know where to begin.

For one thing, he might want to look at the most elementary descriptions of what constitutes free speech and censorship. Censorship is when state authorities limit the speech of the people under their power. Free speech is the guarantee that no action defined as speech is illegal outside a few harmful examples, like harassment, hate speech and other special cases (under constant negotiation) that we as a society have decided constitute or exacerbate crimes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; devincoldewey; elonmusk; liberalmeltdown; mediawingofthednc; musk; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; ronklain; seattle; truthsocial; twitter
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To: hadit2here
Elon’s got one thing going for him.

More than one actually, but Devin is still searching to be relevant.

101 posted on 05/03/2022 1:58:57 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I’ve made this argument here on FR. Any “virtual free PUBLIC space” should be required to allow the same free speech rules as any “physical free PUBLIC space”.


102 posted on 05/03/2022 1:59:37 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: hadit2here

Speaking of embarrassing oneself, Devin…


103 posted on 05/03/2022 2:00:38 PM PDT by Walrus (I do not consent)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Musk was basically saying the level of speech regulation in social media should mirror that of First Amendment legal protections. They're obviously not controlled by the same legal rules, but they can still be guided by the same moral principles.

ESPECIALLY if the company wants to claim that they cannot be sued for being a mere conveyance of information, like the phone company.
104 posted on 05/03/2022 2:03:45 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“...we would live very well without Facebook."-B.LeMaire)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I know someone who looks very much like Devin, and he's the biggest douchebag on the planet. They seem to have a lot in common.


105 posted on 05/03/2022 2:06:36 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Bob Dylan: "Propaganda, all is phony")
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To: Fresh Wind
I know someone who looks very much like Devin, and he's the biggest douchebag on the planet. They seem to have a lot in common.

I've heard it is a "soy boy" look. Effeminate males who don't measure up to actual men.

The make up for it by being a lot more lippy than a man would be unless he wants to get his @$$ beat.

106 posted on 05/03/2022 2:10:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fuzzylogic; semimojo
I’ve made this argument here on FR. Any “virtual free PUBLIC space” should be required to allow the same free speech rules as any “physical free PUBLIC space”.

A lot of us have brother.

107 posted on 05/03/2022 2:11:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: hadit2here

said the POS i’ve never heard of...


108 posted on 05/03/2022 2:13:19 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: hadit2here

First mistake...
Hate speech IS protected by the first amendment.

I didn’t have to read any further than that


109 posted on 05/03/2022 2:16:36 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: hadit2here

“grade-school level of familiarity with the immensely complex concepts of free speech, censorship, rights and privileges of individuals and government authorities. “

Ummmm.... Isn’t this sort of thing exactly what’s taught in grade school?

I mean, I understood it in grade school. Anyone else ?


110 posted on 05/03/2022 2:21:33 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: hadit2here

what is complicated about free speech?

I say we shut down TechCrunch and suddenly they will think the first amendment is “simple”


111 posted on 05/03/2022 2:30:43 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: hadit2here

Too many adjectives. He’s lying.


112 posted on 05/03/2022 2:33:01 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: hadit2here

Free Speech ain’t no Rocket Surgery ya either got it or you don’t.


113 posted on 05/03/2022 2:41:17 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: hadit2here

Between Elon and Devin, one of them certainly doesn’t.

It’s not Elon.


114 posted on 05/03/2022 3:01:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: skeeter

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
— William F. Buckley Jr.

“Shocked! Shocked I tell you!”


115 posted on 05/03/2022 3:04:45 PM PDT by hadit2here (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended.)
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To: ProudDeplorable

You’re being WAYYYYY too generous!


116 posted on 05/03/2022 3:07:32 PM PDT by hadit2here (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended.)
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To: hadit2here

.


117 posted on 05/03/2022 3:15:22 PM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: hadit2here
...immensely complex concepts of free speech...

Wow!

118 posted on 05/03/2022 3:38:20 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: hadit2here

Devin who? Never heard of him


119 posted on 05/03/2022 3:48:44 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: hadit2here

“…with the immensely complex concepts of free speech,“…

Yes, only elites are capable of understanding free speech. This isn’t delusion, it’s Evil. Period.


120 posted on 05/03/2022 3:49:55 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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