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Reparations for slavery: A road map
Seattle Times ^ | April 15, 2022 | Clyde W. Ford

Posted on 04/18/2022 6:25:38 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

Reparations = Dane-geld

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.-Kipling

Reparations were paid in 1861-1865 in the form of blood sacrifice. 700,000 dead, tens of thousands gave arms, legs, eyes in the settlement of that matter of slavery.


61 posted on 04/18/2022 8:58:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (BACK in Facebook jail for posting a euneuch does not voluntarily submit to surgery like a tranny)
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To: artichokegrower

Democrat Party should pay - the party of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, KKK, etc.


62 posted on 04/18/2022 8:58:28 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: bert

What about the genes of Africans who were slaveholders in Africa?


63 posted on 04/18/2022 8:59:04 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SamAdams76

“… and no black man alive in America today ever picked cotton.”

You need to qualify that phrase.

My neighbor across the street picked cotton as a child and used a mule to plow the fields. He’s in his 70s.


64 posted on 04/18/2022 9:11:48 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: artichokegrower

This is a shakedown to pay their black pets and move us farther towards Zimbabwe and South Africa.


65 posted on 04/18/2022 9:35:02 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Republican Wildcat

doesn’t matter

they are now unidentifiable and historically irrelevant

There is no equality gene demonstrating superiority.


66 posted on 04/18/2022 10:37:56 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: IC Ken

Wrong, both Union Generals Ulyesses S. Grant and George Thomas owned slaves. Grant freed the one slave he owned in 1858. Thomas didn’t free the slave he owned until the XVIII Amendment was ratified.


67 posted on 04/18/2022 11:03:34 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: VanShuyten
I believe you are needlessly parsing words and being difficult. If a black man alive today ever picked cotton, it was not as a slave but either as a paid worker or he did it on his own as a free man.

Reparations do not apply here.

68 posted on 04/18/2022 11:03:39 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (1,010,000 active users now on Truth Social)
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To: bert

So that means the slave descendants of John Wayles would not be entitled to reparations?


69 posted on 04/18/2022 11:22:16 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Verginius Rufus
How can the descendants of the Union soldiers who died in the Civil War prove that they were fighting to end slavery rather than fighting to save the Union, or because they were forced to join the Army to avoid going to prison? Maybe some old family letters to loved ones?

Interesting questions.

One could argue that the objectives of ending slavery and saving the union were interdependent. Also, whether conscripts or volunteers, they fought bravely and the outcome was, after a tragically high number of dead and wounded, union victory.

70 posted on 04/18/2022 11:27:14 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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To: dixie1202

The left understands, as do the blactivists, that on average blacks will be far behind non-blacks economically - most likely forever. This is about attaining “equitable outcomes” without acknowledging the failure of assimilation or cultural shortcomings.


71 posted on 04/18/2022 11:36:02 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Bull Snipe

Not sure about Thomas but Grant wasn’t a Republican when He owned a slave (that was gifted to him).


72 posted on 04/18/2022 12:57:09 PM PDT by IC Ken
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To: artichokegrower; All

67% of blacks are in the federal government, I’m sure more are in the state and local govts (especially the DMV!)


73 posted on 04/18/2022 1:58:06 PM PDT by ProudVet97
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To: Seaplaner
What about the currently surviving families of the 360,222 Union Soldiers who died during the Civil War in order to free the slaves?

They didn't die to free the slaves. The died to make certain that an Independent South would never be a financial threat to the powerful corrupt wealthy elite that controlled Washington DC in 1861 and still controls Washington DC today.

They died to protect rich men in the Northeast's money. "Freeing slaves" didn't become a goal until nearly two years into the war.

74 posted on 04/18/2022 2:47:38 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Seaplaner
One could argue that the objectives of ending slavery and saving the union were interdependent.

They weren't. One of Lincoln's first efforts to "preserve the Union" was to call for the passage of the Corwin amendment which would have made slavery permanent.

This amendment passed both houses of Congress and was sent to the states for ratification. Five Northern states did vote to ratify this permanent slavery amendment. Lincoln personally wrote to the governors of the seceded states telling them that the Corwin Amendment was in the process of being ratified.

Again, this amendment made slavery permanent.

Here is more information, including the actual text of the amendment.

Also, whether conscripts or volunteers, they fought bravely and the outcome was, after a tragically high number of dead and wounded, union victory.

When you have four times the population and you even supplement that with grabbing Irish of the boat and forcing them into the army, it's pretty hard to lose.

75 posted on 04/18/2022 2:55:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
When you have four times the population and you even supplement that with grabbing Irish of the boat and forcing them into the army, it's pretty hard to lose.

Somebody should explain that to the Ukrainians and let them know they don't have a chance against the Russians. Except for the BS about the Irish of course.

76 posted on 04/18/2022 3:28:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Ukraine is getting a lot of help from a lot of countries. Even so, it is likely the Russians are going to whip them.

The Southern states got some help from the British, but it was covert and they didn't get nearly so much help as would have made a difference.

77 posted on 04/18/2022 3:57:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The Southern states got some help from the British, but it was covert and they didn't get nearly so much help as would have made a difference.

Probably because the Ukraine is a sovereign nation and the Confederacy wasn't.

78 posted on 04/19/2022 4:41:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

So I have been often told by their enemies.


79 posted on 04/19/2022 7:34:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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